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Explosive Sniffing Dogs?
Can someone please explain to me why we can't use dogs to sniff for explosives at the airports? Aren't they used to detect missing people, drugs, suspects, and other things? Even if dogs and training cost a lot, doesn't it cost a ton of money to buy the new scanner machines and hire the people (above minimum wage) to run them? If I were in charge, I would just have everyone walk through the metal detector, get wanded if necessary (with no touching), and have an explosive dog walk around each passenger and around the terminals. :)
I'm pretty sure that this would be a less offensive to most people. |
They aren't provided by Michael Chertoff ;)
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 16196114)
They aren't provided by Michael Chertoff ;)
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Originally Posted by average_passenger
(Post 16196067)
Can someone please explain to me why we can't use dogs to sniff for explosives at the airports? Aren't they used to detect missing people, drugs, suspects, and other things? Even if dogs and training cost a lot, doesn't it cost a ton of money to buy the new scanner machines and hire the people (above minimum wage) to run them? If I were in charge, I would just have everyone walk through the metal detector, get wanded if necessary (with no touching), and have an explosive dog walk around each passenger and around the terminals. :)
I'm pretty sure that this would be a less offensive to most people. His last comment was to point out the absurdity of the TSA stating the dogs aren't as effective as the body scanners when you would want the most effective means of determining if you had someone trying to smuggle in explosives in a war zone where the enemy is trying to kill you. The TSA clowns just sat there and said nothing. |
Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
(Post 16196163)
During the Congressional Sub-Committee hearing on the TSA and the body scanners, Rep. Issa asked the TSA clowns why they didn't use dogs and they said the dogs were not as effective as the body scanners. Issa then went on the attack and said he was in Iraq and Afghanistan and the military used dogs to weed out explosives, and he further stated that he didn't see one single body scanner.
His last comment was to point out the absurdity of the TSA stating the dogs aren't as effective as the body scanners when you would want the most effective means of determining if you had someone trying to smuggle in explosives in a war zone where the enemy is trying to kill you. The TSA clowns just sat there and said nothing. |
Originally Posted by average_passenger
(Post 16196179)
Wow, that is such a good point!! I'm pretty sure that dogs are effective, why else would police use them to look for missing people or suspects? I am starting to think that the TSA purposely only uses methods that are deemed ineffective. Why are they not accountable to anyone? They use our tax money! Doesn't the current government need to look for ways to cut down on the budget?
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 16196183)
TSA is very effective at reacting after the fact. They also enjoy wasting millions of our tax dollars, while the economy is in the tank. :mad:
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Originally Posted by average_passenger
(Post 16196225)
You know, it all makes me mad. If explosive sniffing dogs are good enough to use in a warzone, why is it not good enough for the airports? We all have to bow down to Chertoff and Janet and do whatever they say? :mad:
I am amazed at how much power the white house has given to Nappy.. Need $$$$$$$ for some idiotic machine? Here you go! :mad: Hopefully Rep. Chaffetz will be able to reign in the TSA. It is time that the giant waste of money was put to death, or reborn as an organization that does not react to threats after the fact, but uses intelligence to catch potential terrorists before they even reach the airport. |
Rep. Chaffetz posted on his facebook wall this weekend that he favors bringing in dogs.
So that's something. It's still not clear to me why the "oversight" committee is having such a hard time actually overseeing the TSA. Can't seem to change a darned thing about it. How many hearings do we need? |
Originally Posted by MDtR-Chicago
(Post 16196254)
Rep. Chaffetz posted on his facebook wall this weekend that he favors bringing in dogs.
So that's something. It's still not clear to me why the "oversight" committee is having such a hard time actually overseeing the TSA. Can't seem to change a darned thing about it. How many hearings do we need? |
Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 16196255)
I wonder if TSA will ever show up with more than the crappy answers they are providing... :rolleyes:
Rep. Chaffetz gave into the TSA demands that they not have to sit next to any of their critics at his last hearing. Apparently, the TSA are a tender bunch with fragile sensitivities. |
The argument these clowns put forth is that dogs have a short attention span, and are good for a half hour at a time.
Some of us might think this could be scaled by adding more dogs and handlers. The TSA would rather spend resources on visual strip searches and hand searching our groins, butts, and breasts. They fall back on the argument that they have to process 2 million pax a day, and this is how they must do it, the only way they can do it. So, the problem is framed as, "how do we process 2 million inanimate things (passengers) a day" rather than, how can we best screen large numbers of passengers in ways that (1) do not violate Constitutional guarantees, and (2) do not humiliate and embarrass these human beings. They have framed the problem incorrectly, and therefore they have an incorrect solution. |
Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 16196344)
The argument these clowns put forth is that dogs have a short attention span, and are good for a half hour at a time.
Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 16196344)
They have framed the problem incorrectly, and therefore they have an incorrect solution.
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Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 16196344)
The argument these clowns put forth is that dogs have a short attention span, and are good for a half hour at a time.
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Is it really necessary to point out that the machines aren't mobile.. (unlike dogs) so would be of rather limited use in anything other than the most benign environment...
..not to mention power supplies etc... So the fact that he "didn't see a single body scanner" is hardly surprising...:rolleyes: (BTW Surely THAT comment ranks with anything dumb the TSA have ever come out with!) I bet he didn't see a CAT scan machine or any of the other (big) wonders of modern medicine in the field hospitals over there either... Where is the rant about "only the best for our soldiers?" It would make as much sense.... Seriously.. why is it that rationality seems to go out the window when the chance to abuse the TSA arises? There are PLENTY of legitimate things to criticise them for (nachtnebel nails a beauty there!) without making a big deal out of something ridiculous like that....... |
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