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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 16174768)
As the OP we are finally back to my question. Hopefully our proclaimed TSA employee will provide the specific answer AND the specific section of federal law that defines the illegal acts , authorizes arrest by whom and what the penalties are.
Yet those rules do not describe what act I must have committed to be fined by TSA. That in my book is a very large problem. Based on some TSA yahoo's complaint I can be charged for doing something that I have no way of knowing was a violation of some hokey rule. That is UN-AMERICAN as is TSA! |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 16178032)
TSA's rules are regulations -- they are not federal laws.
Each airport is its own little fiefdom where these guidelines may be followed, ignored, modified or invented at each level from the FSD down to the tub stacker. Ignorance of them is no defense, they are whatever the TSA employees say they are. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 16174328)
Hunh? Please give me one example of a filed lawsuit in which the plaintiffs struggled to "keep them open," because of the "current state of affairs as it reflects on the war on terrorism." Law suits are not dismissed because of, "the current state of affairs as it reflects on the war on terrorism."
There's another TSO who posts here and frequently makes the same mistake as you're making here. It does NOT matter how severe the threat of terrorism (only Congress can declare a war and it has not done so against, "terrorism"), constitutional rights can NOT be impaired. |
Not that it really matters but the last few posts have the quotes messed up and it appears like comments are being attributed to the wrong person.
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I just reread 3-4 pages of posts, and I may have missed it, but did my questions ever get answered? (Other than the totally unhelpful you should know if you just think about it answer I got initially.)
Much of the problem I have with the TSA is that we are required to follow a set of rules that we can not read, if we break them we can not know the penalty, and if we ask for clarification we are told it depends. |
(Sorry, there's an Airplane thread going on in Travelbuzz :D ) |
They are scum.
The low of the low. Dirt bags. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 16178032)
TSA's rules are regulations -- they are not federal laws. Some of them are published as CFRs. Others are simply procedures and not published at all. TSOs are not authorized to arrest anyone. They can only call a law enforcement officer over and ask him or her to make the arrest. The penalties are published in a CFR which appears a link given earlier in the thread.
Yet those rules do not describe what act I must have committed to be fined by TSA. That in my book is a very large problem. Based on some TSA yahoo's complaint I can be charged for doing something that I have no way of knowing was a violation of some hokey rule. That is UN-AMERICAN as is TSA![/QUOTE]Please watch your attributions. I did not write what you have quoted. |
I mentioned up thread that the quoting had gone off track.
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Originally Posted by InkUnderNails
(Post 16179210)
I just reread 3-4 pages of posts, and I may have missed it, but did my questions ever get answered? (Other than the totally unhelpful you should know if you just think about it answer I got initially.)
Much of the problem I have with the TSA is that we are required to follow a set of rules that we can not read, if we break them we can not know the penalty, and if we ask for clarification we are told it depends.
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 16165000)
SOME ARE AND SOME ARE NOT. To test your questions ask yourself are you keeping someone from doing something that is part of their job?
eyecue, if I have misunderstood you, please post YES / NO answers to each of the questions, after which I will apologize. |
Originally Posted by flapping arms
(Post 16183091)
I read that as eyecue saying "I'm not going to tell you which are which, neener neener pumpkin eater."
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Originally Posted by doober
(Post 16183445)
All but one of the screeners who post here assumes that attitude.
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Originally Posted by flapping arms
(Post 16184200)
At the moment I'm blanking on the screen name of the one TSA person with good manners. Who were you thinking of?
joe |
Originally Posted by FlyingDiver
(Post 16184286)
Probably gsoltso.
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 16184454)
Dean has more class.
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Actually, I know of at least 4 screeners who post here who are, "the good guys."
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Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 16186924)
Actually, I know of at least 4 screeners who post here who are, "the good guys."
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