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chollie Mar 4, 2011 11:26 am

TSA 3 hours a week of training?
 
Did anyone notice the discussion about the 27 TSA baggage screeners in HNL who 'opted out' of screening bags?

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/2...king_bags.html

According to Nico Melendez, "Training for the job includes about 40 hours in the classroom and as much as 60 hours of on-the-job training, Melendez said. Officers also go through three hours of training each week."


Three hours each week for training?

Yoshi212 Mar 4, 2011 11:30 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 15975093)
Three hours each week for training?

They TSA high command has to keep changing the rules to circumnavigate our rights. Training on these new rules takes time.

Boggie Dog Mar 4, 2011 11:36 am

source, who asked to not be named because the person is not authorized to release the information. The harshest penalty the workers face is dismissal. An internal review board will decide disciplinary actions on a case-by-case basis.


Dismissal is the harshest penalty? These people if guilty of dereliction of duties need to go to jail!

doober Mar 4, 2011 11:41 am


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 15975093)
Did anyone notice the discussion about the 27 TSA baggage screeners in HNL who 'opted out' of screening bags?

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/2...king_bags.html

According to Nico Melendez, "Training for the job includes about 40 hours in the classroom and as much as 60 hours of on-the-job training, Melendez said. Officers also go through three hours of training each week."


Three hours each week for training?

Isn't that training on line and not in a "classroom" with an instructor?

Caradoc Mar 4, 2011 11:51 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 15975144)
Dismissal is the harshest penalty? These people if guilty of dereliction of duties need to go to jail!

I'd call punching in and failing to do the job "fraud" at the very least.

TSORon Mar 4, 2011 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by doober (Post 15975181)
Isn't that training on line and not in a "classroom" with an instructor?

Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.

Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

chollie Mar 4, 2011 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15977395)
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.

Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

It isn't 'in addition' to their duties if it is included in the 40 hour work week.

Quality LEO's don't need to spend nearly ten per cent of their work day playing around. Quality LEO's are expected to work for a living. Quality LEOs are expected to get their training right the first time around.

I wouldn't think a TDC really needs to spend three hours every week studying the fine points of the law when they still haven't mastered the website-posted list of acceptable IDs.

FaustsAccountant Mar 4, 2011 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15977395)
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.

Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.

DeafBlonde Mar 4, 2011 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by chollie (Post 15977413)
It isn't 'in addition' to their duties if it is included in the 40 hour work week.

Quality LEO's don't need to spend nearly ten per cent of their work day playing around. Quality LEO's are expected to work for a living. Quality LEOs are expected to get their training right the first time around.

I wouldn't think a TDC really needs to spend three hours every week studying the fine points of the law when they still haven't mastered the website-posted list of acceptable IDs.

tou·ché  ^^^

DeafBlonde Mar 4, 2011 7:01 pm


Originally Posted by FaustsAccountant (Post 15977426)
I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.

Thank God for that!!!:)

doober Mar 4, 2011 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by FaustsAccountant (Post 15977426)
I'm going to say LEOs don't have to because the laws are consistent, the laws don't get 'switched up' to keep criminals on their toes nor are any of it SSI.

Didn't somebody just put up a video today wherein a screener was complaining about his employer changing the game so often that they can't keep up?

Mimi111 Mar 4, 2011 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15977395)
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.

Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

And???

trvlr64 Mar 4, 2011 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15977395)
Its a combination of both, and some things you do not mention. The training covers a wide range of topics as well, all of which apply directly to the job.

Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

Do you consider yourself in the same category as a true law enforcement officer?

.

doober Mar 4, 2011 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by trvlr64 (Post 15977553)
Do you consider yourself in the same category as a true law enforcement officer?

.

He was an MP in the AF, don't cha know?

Scubatooth Mar 4, 2011 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 15977395)
Think about it. Even law enforcement officers do not get 3 hours of training each week in addition to their duties.

You sure about that or are you talking out of a stinky orifice again. I know that LEOS locally get atleast that a week on average, and Fire and EMS getting more then that a week.

Considering the "quality" of see in the ilk TSA hires i would be surprised if it was 3 hours of training a quarter of bi-annual based on the amount of half assing and pulling of "laws" and "rules" out of thin air and posteriors.


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