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First, my children have to grow up to enjoy the benefits our nation has to offer. I remember their reactions to what happened on 9/11, their fear, their questions. What kind of country would fail its citizens by not taking prudent steps to mitigate the threat that this new type of warfare presents? Terrorism has been around for a long time, it isn't warfare, it is more like the destructive adult version of the tantrums of the "terrible two's". Never aimed at the real cause, just done for maximum effect. So, reacting to it in a childish manner, because of childish fears, is appropriate I guess, and all we can expect from DHS or TSA....:rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by nachtnebel
(Post 15844936)
...to placate people with the mental perspective of children...
It exists simply to "prove" to the sheeple that their government cares about their welfare - and to provide employment to a collection of people unemployable elsewhere. |
Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15845051)
This is, of course, the goal of the TSA.
It exists simply to "prove" to the sheeple that their government cares about their welfare - and to provide employment to a collection of people unemployable elsewhere. |
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 15845436)
The hires are basically people with a child's perspective as well, and selected from a pool of people likely to include the socially dysfunctional, but expected not to act out.
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15844652)
Do you honestly believe that anyone willing to work for the TSA cares about how you feel when they tell you lies?
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15844652)
Do you honestly believe that anyone willing to work for the TSA cares about how you feel when they tell you lies?
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 15844778)
Has any TSO ever found explosives (that would have been able to be detonated, and destroyed a commercial aircraft, as found) in a medical device at a US domestic check point?
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 15844778)
Given the low standards that TSA sets for employment, it is not surprising to find people with few other employment options and low personal expectations manning the check points.
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 15844778)
People who constantly need to have their morale shored up.
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 15844778)
People with low grade anti-social tendencies. They become the gate keepers for people who at least look like they have better options, since they have a ticket and are traveling somewhere. :rolleyes: People travel for a variety of reasons, being harassed or fondled by strangers isn't usually one of them, especially if they are already traumatized by a painful medical procedure.
I must ask, is there any point in further discussions with you if you cannot see past the mummery and trappings of the local hate crowd? Is it that easy to ignore the facts and count on the others here to provide you with a belief structure? I’m not meaning to offend, just trying to ascertain if there is any future to this conversation, or if it is time to close the door just as I would on a Jehovah’s Witness? |
From the TSA website:
QUALIFICATIONS REQUIRED: * Have reached his/her 18th birthday at the time of application submission; * Be proficient in English (e.g., reading, writing, speaking, and listening); * Have a high school diploma, GED or equivalent; OR * Have at least one year of full-time work experience in security work, aviation screener work, or X-ray technician work. Applicants must also possess the following job-related knowledge, skills, and abilities (selective factors): PHYSICAL ABILITY: This position requires employees to be willing and able to: repeatedly lift and carry baggage weighing up to 70 pounds; bend, reach, stoop, squat, stand, and walk; continuously stand between one and four hours without a break to carry out screening functions; and walk up to two miles during a shift. COMMUNICATION SKILLS & PERSONAL CHARACTERISTICS: TSOs are required to communicate with the public, giving directions and responding to inquiries in a professional and courteous manner. Applicants must possess customer service skills, be dependable and operate with integrity. FOCUS & MENTAL ABILITY: TSOs must be able to maintain focus and awareness and work within a stressful environment. The position requires employees to make effective decisions in both crisis and routine situations. Necessary skills include visual observation and x-ray interpretation. The work environment includes noise from alarms, machinery, and people, distractions, time pressure, disruptive and angry passengers, and the requirement to identify and locate potentially life threatening devices and devices intended on creating massive destruction. MEDICAL STANDARDS: All TSOs must meet job-related medical standards that will be assessed in a pre-employment medical evaluation that considers relevant aspects of all body systems (e.g., cardiovascular, respiratory, musculoskeletal, auditory, etc.). These medical standards include but are not limited to: * Visual ability including two functioning eyes with: a) distance vision correctable to 20/30 or better in the best eye and 20/100 or better in the worse eye, b) near vision correctable to 20/40 or better binocular, and c) color perception (e.g., red, green, blue, yellow, orange, purple, brown, black, white, gray). Color filters (e.g., contact lenses) for enhancing color discrimination are prohibited; * Hearing ability (corrected or uncorrected) as measured by audiometry cannot exceed: a) an average hearing loss of 25 decibels (ANSI) at 500, 1000, 2000 and 3000Hz in each ear, and b) single reading of 45 decibels at 4000 and 6000 Hz in each ear; * Adequate joint mobility, dexterity and range of motion, strength, and stability to repeatedly lift and carry up to 70 pounds; and * Blood pressure not to exceed 140 / 90. |
TSORon's morale may be ok, but apparently he is the minority
The Transportation Security Administration has a morale problem. Administrator John Pistole knows it, and is trying to do something about it. TSA employees ranked it 220 out of 224 agencies in the 2010 annual Best Places to Work survey conducted by the Partnership for Public Service. Pistole told House Homeland Security subcommittee on Transportation Security members Thursday that granting employees the ability to vote to receive collective bargaining rights is one way he is trying to change the work environment. He said time and again at town hall meetings with employees and managers over the last two years, he heard about how morale is low and the working environment needs to be improved. "What I found is a great deal of frustration with the lack of uniform consistency in the way we handle our personnel policies," Pistole said during the hearing on transportation security. "That was part of what informed my decision and judgments to allow them to vote. I think there are a lot of distractions among the workforce with these personnel issues that could be improved with better uniform consistency." |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 15847172)
Please, show me where an official representative of the TSA has lied to you. I have allllll day.
"The safety of our scanning systems are routinely and thoroughly tested by the manufacturer, FDA, the U.S. Army, the Health Physics Society, Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Laboratory and others," the spokesman said when asked last month how the TSA knows if the scanning system is safe. (Refutations are included in the article linked.) TSA misled public on passenger data TSA backs down on shirtless boy story |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 15847172)
1) Please, prove that it is impossible. 2) Ignorance is a terrible burden to bear, but is has a cure. Stop following the sheep here and take your own path, learn a bit about what it takes to become a member of the TSA. “Low standards” is a complete fabrication, one that is used commonly around here in an attempt to bolster the feelings of the individual posting the lie. It makes them feel better about themselves. :rolleyes: Honestly, I don’t believe that it works but that does not prevent the next person from making the same statement. 3) People, like every other human on the planet at one time or another? My morale is just fine, statements like those above give me great entertainment. It’s the dissatisfied folks here that need a “shot in the arm”, not I. 4) HAHAHA, you actually think that the folks who work for the TSA do so because they don’t have any other options? Wow, you have bought into the local religion hook line and sinker haven’t you. 5) I must ask, is there any point in further discussions with you if you cannot see past the mummery and trappings of the local hate crowd? Is it that easy to ignore the facts and count on the others here to provide you with a belief structure? I’m not meaning to offend, just trying to ascertain if there is any future to this conversation, or if it is time to close the door just as I would on a Jehovah’s Witness? 2):rolleyes: Who else advertises for employees on pizza boxes? 3)Wasn't directed at you personally. I find your comments amusing, too, but seldom enlightening. 4) I'm glad you love your job. I enjoy my career, as well. 5) I am an individual, I have my own viewpoint, based on my own experiences and observations. Sorry if you think I am part of some group, that's your mistake. ;) I don't think of TSA as a religion, but it is sort of a cargo cult..... |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 15847172)
Please, show me where an official representative of the TSA has lied to you. I have allllll day.
Originally Posted by TSORon, 4 April 2009
RB, it is against the law to take $10,000 or more in cash out of the country. Has been for a long time.
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MEDICAL STANDARDS: All TSOs must meet job-related medical standards that will be assessed in a pre-employment medical evaluation that considers relevant aspects of all body systems (e.g., cardiovascular, respiratory, musculoskeletal, auditory, etc.). These medical standards include but are not limited to: I'm wondering how some of these TSA employees are getting around this. I have seen any number that are severely obese and many that are in a retirement second career. Not all of these people could escape the high blood pressure that obesity and old age bring on. |
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Originally Posted by mikemey
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 15844515)
First, my children have to grow up to enjoy the benefits our nation has to offer. I remember their reactions to what happened on 9/11, their fear, their questions. What kind of country would fail its citizens by not taking prudent steps to mitigate the threat that this new type of warfare presents? Of course there are limits, the government “could” have taken some of the steps that are often suggested here and devolved into absolute despotism, but that has not happened. I am of the opinion that the steps taken are both appropriate and prudent. But opinions are going to vary, it’s the nature of our type of country, and each and every one of us is welcome to voice those opinions as they choose. Just as it is everyone’s right to express disdain for those opinions that lack thought or are based on ignorance.
Those 3000 people have died in vain. We have turned into a nation of scared people, and I blame the TSA and DHS for fostering that environment. |
Originally Posted by TSORon
(Post 15805101)
Just be patient with us.
It seems that TSA believes its all about them. The patience needs to go the -other- way. In this mixed up world that TSA lives in, rape victims must be patient with rapist. Abused wives should just be more patient with abusive husbands and passengers need to be patient with abusive TSA. |
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