why was this Greyhound bus hijacked?
Feb 4, 2011, 7:37 am
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why was this Greyhound bus hijacked?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020402394.html
I thought the prevailing wisdom was that hijackings were pre-9/11. Now passengers won't stand for being hijacked so they will stand up and take down the hijackers themselves. Does this little theory only apply to traveling in metal tubes in the sky? When they're on the ground people don't mind being hijacked?
I thought the prevailing wisdom was that hijackings were pre-9/11. Now passengers won't stand for being hijacked so they will stand up and take down the hijackers themselves. Does this little theory only apply to traveling in metal tubes in the sky? When they're on the ground people don't mind being hijacked?
Authorities in North Carolina have identified a Virginia man they say hijacked a Greyhound bus traveling from Richmond to Raleigh.
North Carolina Highway Patrol Sgt. Jeff Gordon says 32-year-old Jose Flores was taken into custody late Thursday near Norlina, about 60 miles north of Raleigh.
The Warren County Sheriff's Office is handling the case. Sheriff Johnny Williams didn't immediately return a phone call Friday morning, but jail officials say Flores is charged with kidnapping.
Police say Flores pulled a gun on a bus with 35 passengers and ordered the driver to relinquish the bus. Police surrounded the bus after it pulled into a gas station and Flores was arrested after being shocked with a stun gun.
North Carolina Highway Patrol Sgt. Jeff Gordon says 32-year-old Jose Flores was taken into custody late Thursday near Norlina, about 60 miles north of Raleigh.
The Warren County Sheriff's Office is handling the case. Sheriff Johnny Williams didn't immediately return a phone call Friday morning, but jail officials say Flores is charged with kidnapping.
Police say Flores pulled a gun on a bus with 35 passengers and ordered the driver to relinquish the bus. Police surrounded the bus after it pulled into a gas station and Flores was arrested after being shocked with a stun gun.
Feb 4, 2011, 7:47 am
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020402394.html
I thought the prevailing wisdom was that hijackings were pre-9/11. Now passengers won't stand for being hijacked so they will stand up and take down the hijackers themselves. Does this little theory only apply to traveling in metal tubes in the sky? When they're on the ground people don't mind being hijacked?
I thought the prevailing wisdom was that hijackings were pre-9/11. Now passengers won't stand for being hijacked so they will stand up and take down the hijackers themselves. Does this little theory only apply to traveling in metal tubes in the sky? When they're on the ground people don't mind being hijacked?
Feb 4, 2011, 7:54 am
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As if travelling by Greyhound wasn't bad enough, how long until the TSA starts showing up?
Feb 4, 2011, 8:00 am
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Totally different situation.
Feb 4, 2011, 8:01 am
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I thought the prevailing wisdom was that hijackings were pre-9/11. Now passengers won't stand for being hijacked so they will stand up and take down the hijackers themselves. Does this little theory only apply to traveling in metal tubes in the sky? When they're on the ground people don't mind being hijacked?
Feb 4, 2011, 8:10 am
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It's different because crashing a bus is far less likely to involve fatalities.
And TSA has started doing searches in Greyhound stations (do a forum search) and has even been spotted at city buses such as COTA in Columbus, OH.
And TSA has started doing searches in Greyhound stations (do a forum search) and has even been spotted at city buses such as COTA in Columbus, OH.
Feb 4, 2011, 8:12 am
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Had the hijacker showed the intention of ramming into a school or packed restaurant or any conceivable high collateral damage target outside the bus, the dynamic would have changed significantly. The 9/11 flight happened the way it did to protect innocents that would die on the ground and not specifically to protect the passengers, although that may have been a hopeful outcome that did not happen.
In this case, it seems all he wanted was the bus and there was no credible threat to the passengers, at least not as reported. There is no need to risk ones life to save a bus.
In this case, it seems all he wanted was the bus and there was no credible threat to the passengers, at least not as reported. There is no need to risk ones life to save a bus.
Feb 4, 2011, 8:27 am
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Had the hijacker showed the intention of ramming into a school or packed restaurant or any conceivable high collateral damage target outside the bus, the dynamic would have changed significantly. The 9/11 flight happened the way it did to protect innocents that would die on the ground and not specifically to protect the passengers, although that may have been a hopeful outcome that did not happen.
In this case, it seems all he wanted was the bus and there was no credible threat to the passengers, at least not as reported. There is no need to risk ones life to save a bus.
In this case, it seems all he wanted was the bus and there was no credible threat to the passengers, at least not as reported. There is no need to risk ones life to save a bus.
Feb 4, 2011, 8:29 am
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No, I read the brief report, it said he asked for the bus. I based my statement on that. It said nothing about threats to any passenger except the driver. I reserve the right to modify my statement and recognize you are correct when all of the info is known.
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Feb 4, 2011, 8:31 am
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Indeed one of the things people on this forum point to as evidence is the fact that hijackings don't happen on Greyhound. We now know that's wrong.
Feb 4, 2011, 8:32 am
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Why does the driver need to threaten the passengers? Taking control of the bus is the threat. @:-)
Feb 4, 2011, 8:41 am
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The risk of fatality in a bus crash controlled by a hijacker is much lower than that of an airplane at 30,000 feet. If I do nothing and the bus crashes, I probably get away with some injuries. There is probably a higher chance of getting fatally shot by rushing the gunman. There is also help (police) readily available on the ground that can end the situation, as they did. Until the situation escalates to the bus about to being driven off a cliff, the action with the lowest risk of personal injury is complying and waiting for police.