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Peter King went first to Big Sis for an answer
You might think it strange, but I find it somewhat encouraging.
Peter King is looking into the issues with international flights being held on tarmacs for hours and hours in the NYC area during the recent snow storm. The first person he asked for an explanation was Big Sis. Of course, she said that the delays in processing incoming passengers was not the fault of DHS/CBP, but in the interview I heard, he was not buying that totally, which I see as encouraging. King said during an interview on New York City's WCBS Radio that agencies and airlines were "not clued into each other." "This has to be resolved," he said. |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 15543685)
Of course, she said that the delays in processing incoming passengers was not the fault of DHS/CBP, but in the interview I heard, he was not buying that totally, which I see as encouraging.
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Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15543806)
There were several interviews on the television news containing commentary from passengers from international flights, all saying that they were told they could not get off the plane because there was nobody staffing the CBP counters.
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Originally Posted by doober
(Post 15543813)
If that's true, it's great news 'cause it's another nail in Big Sis' coffin!
Next, they had to wait again, almost 3 more hours, until 8:45 a.m. Tuesday, December 28 when there finally was customs and immigration staff available to process them. |
As much as I would like to lay the blame at the feet of Napolitano, my guess is this is a case of a bad situation that ALL of the service providers at JFK weren't equipped to handle. PA personnel and snow equipment probably weren't able to keep up. Ground crews were more than likely very short staffed. With large portions of NYC mass transit down people probably weren't able to even get in to handle snow/aircraft, etc, ad nauseam. Ultimately it was probably a case of not being to get an airplane off a gate more than anything else.
One would think CBP would be able to design a procedure around not being able to get an aircraft on an international gate but I would be surprised if even they weren't horribly short staffed, in which case it simply may not be feasible to design a procedure to handle. |
I would put the blame on the Port Authority.
I've seen interview after interview with their spokesperson and his story changes by the hour. Have also heard the Port Authority has been harassing media, i.e. not allowing them inside JFK to take pictures or talk to pax, and keeping most media outside in the snow. On a personal note, I've had problems with the Port Authority and taking photography at JFK as a tourist. The Port Authority can be difficult to deal with and is full of bureaucratic fiefdoms. |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 15543813)
If that's true, it's great news 'cause it's another nail in Big Sis' coffin!
CBP workers are people, too -- they also go to work in the morning just like everyone else, at least when it's possible to get there. |
Great.....One blowhard asks another blowhard or an answer :rolleyes:
The problem is that the NY blowhard asked the DHS blowhard and should have known better and asked the blowhards at the NY Port Authority first. Sheesh-what a putz. |
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Originally Posted by MikeMpls
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 15543813)
If that's true, it's great news 'cause it's another nail in Big Sis' coffin!
CBP workers are people, too -- they also go to work in the morning just like everyone else, at least when it's possible to get there. |
Originally Posted by MikeMpls
(Post 15544708)
How were they supposed to get in to work, when many subways still weren't running & many buses were stranded in the deep snow?
CBP workers are people, too -- they also go to work in the morning just like everyone else, at least when it's possible to get there. |
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 15545013)
If a certain percentage of the JFK customs people are designated as "essential personnel," they are REQUIRED to be present for duty. Yes, they sign an agreement. Tough beans - that's what cots and frozen burritos are for. |
Originally Posted by Lara21
(Post 15545045)
Just fix some rooms up at the airport for CBP workers to stay in and when a big snowstorm is coming that is going to cause what happened this time.
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Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
(Post 15545013)
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If a certain percentage of the JFK customs people are designated as "essential personnel," they are REQUIRED to be present for duty. Yes, they sign an agreement. Tough beans - that's what cots and frozen burritos are for. Oh, and if it wasn't CBP but rather PA or MTA or ground crew that screwed it up it will NEVER change. Unions own the NY state legislature and nothing regarding local government employees will change in the near future. My suggestion is, next time NYC experiences a blizzard, Bloomberg should announce that abandoned vehicles won't be towed but carried by forklift or front-end loader and dumped in the east river. But then again, I'm an evil person |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 15543685)
You might think it strange, but I find it somewhat encouraging.
Peter King is looking into the issues with international flights being held on tarmacs for hours and hours in the NYC area during the recent snow storm. The first person he asked for an explanation was Big Sis. Of course, she said that the delays in processing incoming passengers was not the fault of DHS/CBP, but in the interview I heard, he was not buying that totally, which I see as encouraging.
Originally Posted by SDF_Traveler
(Post 15544661)
I would put the blame on the Port Authority.
I've seen interview after interview with their spokesperson and his story changes by the hour. Part of this will go to the saying "the cover-up is worse than the crime." Don't see how Napolitano can be faulted in regards to the Port Authority's handling of ground operations. |
Originally Posted by Caradoc
(Post 15545178)
That's called "contingency planning," and Napolitano and Pistole (and their cronies/underlings) have proven horribly inept at it.
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