AIT computer display changes coming?
 

Tripped over this today:

http://www.securitydirectornews.com/blogs/?p=2051

An inside look at Logan Airport’s security strategy
Thursday, November 18, 2010 12:08

During my tour of the facility I also had a chance to speak with many of the people in the room, too. I got to see, firsthand, how the new advanced imaging technology machines work. While I opted out of seeing my own image (I’m shy, people, really), I got to take a peak into the room where the TSA officer views the images and what the images look like. I also learned from George Naccara, federal security director for the airport, that by April, he expects to have software that replaces actual images of people with generic stick figures that highlight areas of concern.

Sounds like we're getting closer to AIT ATR.

So in other words the AIT DOES STORE images?!
...waiting for someone come along and claim it was in 'test' mode for the show and tell session OR that they held the image till he could walk over to the peep show both err screening room.

AIT? You mean WBI or NoS?

If Kippie & Pissy say that it will be a while until they get ATR for the WBI/NoS, I highly doubt that BOS will get it :rolleyes:

The alternative is that they let a reporter look at other people's images. :mad:

Uh... enforcement of access? Aren't we promised that access is tightly controlled and there are no cameras, etc?

Does that mean screeners can just let their buddy down the hall at the terminal Subway into the peep booth to check it out too?

I was walking past the stimulation resolution room in an airport two weeks ago and heard the clerks inside talking about the pax they were screening :eek:

BOS has been a tester site for many of the TSA rollouts, enhanced pat-downs and NoS for example. It wouldn't surprise me if they were the first to get ATR for testing as well.

Stick figure or not if it is Backscatter it's an xray.

I see no reason to subject oneself to any additional xray sources.

I dont see how you can construe the article to have anything to do with storing an image.

One thing at a time. They might say "stick figures", yet there's always that radiation thing. And expect that the raw-pic is still in there somewhere. Yet, many a person has said... when the government says it's safe, that's when you really start to worry. :)

I think the assumption is if he declined to view his own scan he was actually given the option to see it, which would necessitate some storage or at least the ability to keep it up long enough for him to get there. Whether or not that occured, that's what he said.

Anyway, software changes don't convince me. Not as long as they continue to have false positives and invasive patdowns. Also if you don't believe they can't enable the save function are you going to believe they can't enable the enhanced view?

How about this? While I opted out of seeing my own image (I’m shy, people, really), I got to take a peak into the room where the TSA officer views the images and what the images look like.

Not sure how he could see his own image, while simultaneously standing in the NoS, if it wasn't stored.

I agree, that was my impression.

The only reasonable interpretation of the authors words is they were letting him view pax images.

I find that incredibly hard to believe.

Meh. Just like we won't have to use Kippie bags by the end of 2009, right? :rolleyes:

Talk to me when they're actually deploying the software to the field. There's nothing that's more ephemeral than software delivery dates.

There wasn't as much backlash about the baggies.

The TSA is taking a PR beating on these machines. It's in their best interest to minimize that by coming up with a solution.

I am confused. Did OP get a peak of the actual TSA viewing facility at BOS? Didn't DHS/TSA claim it can't release images from NoS to the public because it's supposed to be SSI? Now there is an opportunity for anyone invited to such tour to view those images?! What am I missing?

LAX

Oh, I don't doubt that. But any statement that "a new software upgrade will be available in April" should be treated with skepticism. Not that I don't believe the sincerity of those offering the quote. But software is simply never delivered on time, period.

Besides, that's not really an answer to the complaint. "We're sorry that people have to look at computer-generated images of your bits-and-pieces, but rest assured that they'll only have to do this for several more months. We hope." :rolleyes:

Like I said ... when it comes to this software upgrade, I'll believe it when I see the press release that says "it's being rolled out today" --- and not before.

Oh from a generic software-deadline standpoint, I completely agree. Point taken.

There simply is too much backlash for the TSA to not do something. If Pistole was put under oath again in a committee and testified that there was nothing done beyond crew exemption and a modified kiddie rub-down, there would be even more hell to pay.

I'm not saying the stick figure is the answer to everything, but if it's indeed true, I will give the TSA some credit for trying.

The software is available today, just not branded for TSA at a ridiculous price.

Some credit, perhaps. But TSA, like most of us, is graded on results, not intentions. I'll reserve full credit for when they get the job done.

Which means, of course, that it's not really available --- at least to anyone traversing a TSA checkpoint anytime soon.

Why, what else would they be doing? I once set up a computer network used by the NYPD for surveillance, and got to see this behavior first-hand. Do you really think they were looking for anything other than hot chicks (if looking at the screen at all)? Hint: if you said yes, try again.

That's one of the biggest security problems with this: a metal detector alarm is impossible to ignore, while a lazy TSA agent "looking" at an AIT may very well just send passengers through without even looking at the screen.

--Jon

LOL, hey give the big dogs a break. ;) It takes time to buy stock in every DHS software peddler with a GSA approval sticker. Chertoff and his buddies are not Supermen, just average free market capitalists with no insider connections working hard to make an honest dollar. When they line up the right nudge nudge wink wink consulting contracts, TSA will get its ridiculous price software. :rolleyes:

From what I can tell:

The operator isn’t looking at a live image. The data is captured, stored in RAM and the image displayed to the operator until the operator dismisses it. I think the TSA means to say the data isn’t saved to a persistent store (e.g., a hard drive).

Whoopdedoo. Months away. Just shut 'em off till then.

I've said it in other posts, these imagers were rushed to market 2-5 years ahead of time simply to provide a new act for the special holiday performance of security theater.

If software is being rushed to provide another new act for security theater by April it it is because either: (1) TSA is afraid they will lose in court on the virtual strip-search aspects of the fourth ammendment argument or (2) TSA is receiving an enormous amount of behind-the-scenes pressure from congressman et. al. over the looking at nude images issue or (3) a combination of both.

Fair enough.

However, by the same token, can we now all agree once and for all that the TSA lied through its teeth from day one saying the scanner images were ready for the cover of Reader's Digest and to be handed out at your local preschool?

If that were indeed the case, there would be absolutely no need for the change to a stick figure.

From BB at PV (back in April):

But it seems to work in other countries.

Did any one think that perhaps, the reporter could have his image taken - then WALK around the corner to the room where it was being viewed? That was my first thought.

Also, it is not like the images are on the screen for 5 seconds and then cleared. The images are cleared from the screen once the examiner manually clears it via the control system.

Sheesh, some folks need to remove their tin foil hats. As some are starting to really look like fools which does not help the cause.

Also there are always going to be false-positives as well as false-negatives. The question is what will be acceptable. Pistole has said that TSA the current software does not meet their standards (what ever that might be). However, the software does meet other countries standards (Netherlands??) and is currently in use.

AIR machines were originally designed for US customs as an alternative method to an actual strip search. Federal law requires that all documents produced during a customs search--and this is because customs can criminally arrest--be made available to the searchee. This is why the machines do store images.

And I've said in other posts, there is no need for "software to be rushed". It's a two-step process:
1. Find the company that sells ATR to AMS.
2. Buy that.
Yes, absolutely. Of course, it looked suspicious from day one when they wouldn't release actual images and told us that the smurf viewing the images had to sit in a separate room. ;)