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RustyShackleford1 Nov 28, 2010 5:49 pm

millimeter or x-ray ?
 
How can I determine if the WBI machine used at my airport
(RDU) are the millimeter-wavelength kind or the backscatter
X-ray ? I have health concerns about the latter.
(I have other concerns too, but I don't wish to get into them in
THIS thread, and they are thoroughly discussed elsewhere in this
forum).

P.S. I wonder if it would be considered a threat if you calmly
informed a TSO planning to pat-down you, or a loved one (and
you're witnessing), that you are a 4th-degree black-belt in
TaeKwonDo ?

IrishDoesntFlyNow Nov 28, 2010 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by RustyShackleford1 (Post 15323452)
How can I determine if the WBI machine used at my airport
(RDU) are the millimeter-wavelength kind or the backscatter
X-ray ? I have health concerns about the latter.
(I have other concerns too, but I don't wish to get into them in
THIS thread, and they are thoroughly discussed elsewhere in this
forum).

P.S. I wonder if it would be considered a threat if you calmly
informed a TSO planning to pat-down you, or a loved one (and
you're witnessing), that you are a 4th-degree black-belt in
TaeKwonDo ?

If it looks like a big plexiglass booth, it's MMW.
If they want to to stand in between two parallel walls, it's backscatter.

~~ Irish

CitizenTerrorist Nov 28, 2010 5:54 pm

2 big blocks that look like some diabolical trap out of a George Lucas or James Bond film = x-ray

The round, aquarium looking one is the MMW machine.

FriendlySkies Nov 28, 2010 5:58 pm

RDU is MMW. I pass through there fairly often, and was even there today, so I can confirm that.. Here is a picture of the device.

http://www.sds.l-3com.com/products/i...PS_Jan2010.jpg

baliktad Nov 28, 2010 7:03 pm

And here's the backscatter. It is made by RapiScan and looks like two refrigerators that you stand between:

http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/saw...rt%20scan1.jpg

(Image is not my own photograph.)

goalie Nov 28, 2010 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by baliktad (Post 15324052)
And here's the backscatter. It is made by RapiScan and looks like two refrigerators that you stand between:

http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/saw...rt%20scan1.jpg

(Image is not my own photograph.)

Is the photo on the side of the machine that the TSO is looking at real or for pax to see as a sample when they approach the machine cuz haven't we been spun told that the image of the pax is viewed in private?

FriendlySkies Nov 28, 2010 8:41 pm


Originally Posted by baliktad (Post 15324052)
And here's the backscatter. It is made by RapiScan and looks like two refrigerators that you stand between:

http://www.biyokulule.com/sawiro/saw...rt%20scan1.jpg

(Image is not my own photograph.)


Originally Posted by goalie (Post 15325011)
Is the photo on the side of the machine that the TSO is looking at real or for pax to see as a sample when they approach the machine cuz haven't we been spun told that the image of the pax is viewed in private?

Looking at the image on the display, as well as the "security agent" standing next to the machine, I believe that we might be looking at some where in Europe, that is using ATR with their BKSXs..

goalie Nov 28, 2010 9:02 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15325041)
Looking at the image on the display, as well as the "security agent" standing next to the machine, I believe that we might be looking at some where in Europe, that is using ATR with their BKSXs..

Good point as I simply saw a "blue shirt" ;) but I am gonna look twice when is see* one of these in my U.S. travels


*See and never use ;)


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