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Fredd Nov 23, 2010 12:05 pm

TSA: Flight Attendants Exempt from screening
 
Flights attendants are joining pilots in getting to skip the new enhanced security procedures at airports.

The Transportation Security Administration confirmed the change on Tuesday after The Associated Press asked about it.

On Friday the TSA said pilots could skip the more intense screening, including full-body scanners. Flight attendants argued they, too, should be exempt.


http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/1...-can-also.html

Sensible adjustment or divide-and-conquer? Discuss among yourselves.

SATTSO Nov 23, 2010 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by Fredd (Post 15255805)
Flights attendants are joining pilots in getting to skip the new enhanced security procedures at airports.

The Transportation Security Administration confirmed the change on Tuesday after The Associated Press asked about it.

On Friday the TSA said pilots could skip the more intense screening, including full-body scanners. Flight attendants argued they, too, should be exempt.


http://www.thenewstribune.com/2010/1...-can-also.html

Sensible adjustment or divide-and-conquer? Discuss among yourselves.

All flight crew have been exempt for over a week now. Airport employees, too.

Fredd Nov 23, 2010 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 15255861)
All flight crew have been exempt for over a week now. Airport employees, too.

It just seems to be hitting the news now, however.

tinman435 Nov 23, 2010 12:10 pm

Classic devide & conquer. Once the general public is broken, they'll be back to screening air crews.

The groups most oganised & able to be the center of resitance (pilots & flight Attendants) are now exempt.

:mad::mad::mad:

exbayern Nov 23, 2010 12:17 pm

And FAs (along with GAs) are most likely the largest group of skirt wearers in airports in the US. Sadly we will have lost a voice in that battle.

Scubatooth Nov 23, 2010 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by tinman435 (Post 15255880)
Classic devide & conquer. Once the general public is broken, they'll be back to screening air crews.

The groups most oganised & able to be the center of resitance (pilots & flight Attendants) are now exempt.

:mad::mad::mad:

Your assuming the foot on TSAs throat will let up, not likely.

Wollstonecraft Nov 23, 2010 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 15255861)
All flight crew have been exempt for over a week now. Airport employees, too.

What, WHAT?!?! Pilots and flight attendants have background checks, education and actual training in air safety and security. The ding-dong at the Cinnabon inside the airport certainly does not. TSA is willing to let them pass through with who knows what potentially dangerous devices while irradiating me and/or touching my genitals?

Are you KIDDING? Why are passengers the only ones being targeted here?

DevilDog438 Nov 23, 2010 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by Wollstonecraft (Post 15256031)
Are you KIDDING? Why are passengers the only ones being targeted here?

We don't have a union that spends large amounts of PAC dollars.

BearX220 Nov 23, 2010 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by tinman435 (Post 15255880)
Classic divide & conquer... The groups most oganised & able to be the center of resitance (pilots & flight Attendants) are now exempt.

Well, the airline employees' unions now have a choice. They can exit this whole debate because they got theirs, leaving passengers to their ugly fate... which is exactly what TSA wants. (Divide and conquer is right.) Or they can connect the dots between patdown outrage, cancelled travel, and their own job security, and advocate for all of us.

By the same token, I hope that if and when TSA tries to buy off FT-class frequent flyers with some kind of trusted-traveler biometric solution that keeps the blueshirts' fingers out of our shorts, we have the good political sense to reject that divide-and-conquer tactic and say: hell no.

LessO2 Nov 23, 2010 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 15255861)
All flight crew have been exempt for over a week now. Airport employees, too.

Excellent, so the McDonald's burger-flipper who will probably will work there less than a year gets less screening than someone who flies for a living. :rolleyes:

cynicAAl Nov 23, 2010 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by Wollstonecraft (Post 15256031)
Why are passengers the only ones being targeted here?

as my FA friend told me "we're not the problem, YOU are"

DevilDog438 Nov 23, 2010 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 15256110)
Excellent, so the McDonald's burger-flipper who will probably will work there less than a year gets less screening than someone who flies for a living. :rolleyes:

Easy - passenger=terrorist, airport/airline employee/TSA=never a terrorist.

MikeMpls Nov 23, 2010 12:34 pm

When the layoffs start, they'll be wishing they hadn't left us behind.

N965VJ Nov 23, 2010 12:38 pm

The TSA still plans a nationwide rollout for CrewPass, a program that clears pilots through security faster. It's currently being tested in Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Columbia, S.C.

Is the TSA now going to pay for CrewPASS? The airlines were the ones that were going to have to foot the bill for that. As for the tests being done in BWI, PIT and CAE, that's been going on for years.




Originally Posted by Wollstonecraft (Post 15256031)
The ding-dong at the Cinnabon inside the airport certainly does not. TSA is willing to let them pass through with who knows what potentially dangerous devices while irradiating me and/or touching my genitals?

Are you KIDDING? Why are passengers the only ones being targeted here?


Originally Posted by LessO2 (Post 15256110)
Excellent, so the McDonald's burger-flipper who will probably will work there less than a year gets less screening than someone who flies for a living. :rolleyes:

I think SATTSO is cryptically referring to ground-based airline employees.

Ellie M Nov 23, 2010 12:39 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 15256213)
Easy - passenger=terrorist, someone dressed as an airport/airline employee/TSA=never a terrorist.

;)


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