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-   -   New ACLU Petition to Nappy (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/practical-travel-safety-security-issues/1150763-new-aclu-petition-nappy.html)

sbagdon Nov 21, 2010 5:39 am
Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15221479)
not signed
I'm surprised by that one. After reading it, it appears to be more of a mission statement, then any call to change a specific operational process. It doesn't say anything about starting or stopping anything specific, just that we need to rethink how we're doing things.

Then again, if all of that, what's the point of the petition? :)

mozgytog Nov 21, 2010 8:05 am
Personalized and signed.

fschmidt Nov 21, 2010 8:22 am
Personalized and signed.

janey Nov 21, 2010 10:27 am
Signed. Thanks for posting the link.

polonius Nov 21, 2010 10:36 am
Originally Posted by N615HL (Post 15221214)
signed.

Probably the first time I have ever agreed with the ACLU....def the first time i signed an ACLU petition

So many here who express similar sentiments. If more of you had been more active in supporting the ACLU in the past, then we probably would not have gotten to the point we are at now. Remaining silent whilst the government goes after "other people" is what leads to the "no one left to speak up" problem when they do finally get you in their sights. Hope you have learned your lesson.

eyecue Nov 21, 2010 10:49 am
Originally Posted by sbagdon (Post 15224025)
I'm surprised by that one. After reading it, it appears to be more of a mission statement, then any call to change a specific operational process. It doesn't say anything about starting or stopping anything specific, just that we need to rethink how we're doing things.

Then again, if all of that, what's the point of the petition? :)
You are right it is too broad and covers another issue besides that one at hand. I thought a petition to be valid had to have other considerations like location and legal age and registered to vote. So how can it be valid?

Wimpie Nov 21, 2010 11:00 am
Signed and personalized. Added:

This adds nothing to security.

Because of public fear of the TSA, more and more outraged Americans will be driving rather then flying as they elect to opt-out of airline travel which has 1/10th the risk of highway travel.

This additional driving will cause additional highway deaths.

This blood is on your hands.
The loss of revenue to the (private corp) airlines is on your hands.

erictank Nov 21, 2010 1:08 pm
Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15221479)
not signed
Naturally. We expected no less from one of our resident apparatchiks. :rolleyes:

Don't worry, the rest of us are making up for you.


Personalized and signed.

gdeluca Nov 21, 2010 3:45 pm
Originally Posted by polonius (Post 15226566)
So many here who express similar sentiments. If more of you had been more active in supporting the ACLU in the past, then we probably would not have gotten to the point we are at now. Remaining silent whilst the government goes after "other people" is what leads to the "no one left to speak up" problem when they do finally get you in their sights. Hope you have learned your lesson.
Really no need to scold us here. At least people are signing it and doing other things to support this effort.

Signed.

CubsFanJohn Nov 21, 2010 9:07 pm
Even though I am very anti-ACLU this is the one time I will support them on anything.

Superguy Nov 21, 2010 9:14 pm
Done. ^

birdstrike Nov 21, 2010 9:24 pm
Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15221479)
not signed
Signed, and donated $$, Hope you are out of a job soon.

rgfloor Nov 21, 2010 9:30 pm
Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15226726)
You are right it is too broad and covers another issue besides that one at hand. I thought a petition to be valid had to have other considerations like location and legal age and registered to vote. So how can it be valid?
Do you only screen registered voters of a certain age? I thought not!!

Same principle, we are not petitioning on anything to do with voting or voting age. They do ask for your name and address.

wildcatlh Nov 21, 2010 9:59 pm
Originally Posted by gdeluca (Post 15229686)
Really no need to scold us here. At least people are signing it and doing other things to support this effort.

Signed.
Quite frankly, I agree with him. The loss of liberty doesn't happen all at once, it's more like death by a thousand cuts. When you ignore those thousand cuts, it shouldn't be surprising when you end up with a fatal wound.

Signed, of course.

AirlineBrat53 Nov 21, 2010 10:36 pm
Personalized and signed. :td:


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