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mre5765 Nov 21, 2010 8:05 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 15229233)
Thanks, but I'm specifically interested in my computer, as I travel with it internationally often. In Windows, only one password is allowed for. Is there software available that supplies the duress function?

Some laptops have a finger print scanner, and you can assign different user IDs to different fingers. Assign your index finger to the normal user ID, and your thumb to the duress ID. When asked to swipe your finger, swipe your thumb. The duress ID's start up folder has a script that will then proceed to wipe the computer clean.

q209 Nov 23, 2010 12:34 am


Originally Posted by Big Mo (Post 15210653)
That's an overstatement. The Supreme Court has held that even the guys locked up in Guantanamo Bay (not in the US) have rights.

I would hope you're right! But then, I read passages such as this:

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The exact wording from the Ninth Court’s Decision is as follows:

“First, we address whether the forensic analysis of Romm’s laptop falls under the border search exception to the warrant requirement. We review the legality of a border search de novo. United States v. Okafor, 285 F.3d 842, 845 (9th Cir. 2002). Under the border search exception, the government may conduct routine searches of persons entering the
United States without probable cause, reasonable suspicion, or a warrant. See United States v. Montoya de Hernandez, 473 U.S. 531, 538 (1985). For Fourth Amendment purposes, an international airport terminal is the “functional equivalent” of a border. See Okafor, 285 F.3d at 845 (citing Almeida-Sanchez v. United States, 413 U.S. 266, 272-73 (1973)). Thus, passengers deplaning from an international flight are subject to routine border searches.”1

Doesn't seem to matter if you're a citizen: when on the other side of the fence, some droid's perception of 'safety' is all that matters.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...op.html?cat=17
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name withheld by demand

Ken hAAmer Nov 23, 2010 12:46 am


Originally Posted by sbagdon (Post 15213483)
There's a case in the UK about someone being sent to prison for about a year, for not surrendering their 50-bit key. It's out there somewhere in google.

http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/th...e-password-sex

morcheeba Nov 23, 2010 12:59 am

Customs: "Give me your iPod."

Me: (complies)

Customs: "Sir, are these illegal downloads?"

Me: "Uh, yes, officer."

Customs: "Cool, wanna trade?"

RaeLeigh Nov 25, 2010 7:21 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 15229233)
Thanks, but I'm specifically interested in my computer, as I travel with it internationally often. In Windows, only one password is allowed for. Is there software available that supplies the duress function?

What they are talking about here is using boot passwords or encryption passwords, in the case of a duress password it would be for encryption(something like truecrypt). The issue with securing your computer using only a Windows password is your average low level computer guy knows how to get around it, remove it, or bypass it.

Windows has a failsafe built into the OS called the Admin password, your average computer owner doesn't change that, or know how to change it, so with a few keystrokes anyone can enter your system, and look for pretty much anything.

Another way to protect your data which is slightly less obvious than an encrypted windows/duress is the following. It requires a bit more computer savvy, and knowledge of UNIX systems. You duelboot your system and mask your key partition(truecrypt does something similar, but in a very different way). For instance you can use Ubuntu and Windows with your average GRUB loader(it is a boot loader), and mask your Windows partition before traveling, this would allow full access you a working part of your computer, and even if you encrypt your windows partition from Ubuntu you could use terminal to mount the other partition. After traveling you just go in and unmask your main partition, and can load it normally again through GRUB. Using this method it is possible for someone to find your partition, but it requires quite a bit of time, and Unix knowledge, also it looks significantly less suspicious than having a fully encrypted computer.

That being said if your laptop is ever out of your site in hands you don't trust utilize boot and nuke, then fully reformat, just in case anything nasty is added.

I will be upfront, I have not yet had any CBP look at my laptop with the above system, but it tends to confuse every IT person I ever met for 30 plus minutes, and then they are left with an encrypted partition, so should be just fine at the US border.


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