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Andrusha Nov 17, 2010 3:56 pm

Procedures
 
I've been curious as to the procedures you can opt for during the screening process with regards to the 4th Amendment, among other things.

If I opt out of the AIT, as I will do from here on out, can I also opt out of the Enhanced Pat-down, and instead ask to go through the WTMD and the metal detector for my personal belongings?

I mean, the WTMD's should satisfy the inquiry of whether or not I have Weapons or Explosives, right?

I'd like to know more about what rights I do have before I get to the screening area (before I pass through the MD) and I'm in line, and what rights I have if I get moved over into a Secondary Screening area, and so on.

sangreal Nov 17, 2010 4:01 pm

Currently there are no airports that I'm aware of that are 100% AIT so you can still get through with a normal screening sometimes. That said, if you're in an AIT line or selected for one, no you can't opt for a traditional screening. You're a suspected terrorist and you can either take your virtual strip search or "enhanced pat-down." The justification being that the WTMD doesn't detect non-metallic weapons, explosives or incendiaries.

N965VJ Nov 17, 2010 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by Andrusha (Post 15177451)
If I opt out of the AIT, as I will do from here on out, can I also opt out of the Enhanced Pat-down, and instead ask to go through the WTMD and the metal detector for my personal belongings?


Welcome to FlyerTalk! :)

Please check out this thread that has descriptions of the opt out options.

eyecue Nov 17, 2010 4:04 pm


Originally Posted by Andrusha (Post 15177451)
I've been curious as to the procedures you can opt for during the screening process with regards to the 4th Amendment, among other things.

If I opt out of the AIT, as I will do from here on out, can I also opt out of the Enhanced Pat-down, and instead ask to go through the WTMD and the metal detector for my personal belongings?

I mean, the WTMD's should satisfy the inquiry of whether or not I have Weapons or Explosives, right?

I'd like to know more about what rights I do have before I get to the screening area (before I pass through the MD) and I'm in line, and what rights I have if I get moved over into a Secondary Screening area, and so on.

You cannot opt out of the standard pat down that you will get for opting out of the AIT.
If you get selected for AIT you will be in front of the checkpoint. If you decline then you are asked if you are opting out and you are told that you will receive a pat down that is a least as thorough as the AIT. IF you decline that then your property may be searched anyway. You are then asked to leave and escorted from the screening area.
When you are accepting a standard patdown, you get the right to be screened in private and you get to have a witness of your choosing present with you. I hope that answers your questions

FriendlySkies Nov 17, 2010 4:37 pm


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15177557)
You cannot opt out of the standard pat down that you will get for opting out of the AIT.
If you get selected for AIT you will be in front of the checkpoint. If you decline then you are asked if you are opting out and you are told that you will receive a pat down that is a least as thorough as the AIT. IF you decline that then your property may be searched anyway. You are then asked to leave and escorted from the screening area.
When you are accepting a standard patdown, you get the right to be screened in private and you get to have a witness of your choosing present with you. I hope that answers your questions

Standard patdown? You mean Enhanced Patdown..

manneca Nov 17, 2010 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15177977)
Standard patdown? You mean Enhanced Patdown..

Enhanced is now standard.

PVDtoDEL Nov 17, 2010 6:25 pm


Originally Posted by sangreal (Post 15177519)
Currently there are no airports that I'm aware of that are 100% AIT so you can still get through with a normal screening sometimes. That said, if you're in an AIT line or selected for one, no you can't opt for a traditional screening. You're a suspected terrorist and you can either take your virtual strip search or "enhanced pat-down." The justification being that the WTMD doesn't detect non-metallic weapons, explosives or incendiaries.

BOS is completely NoS except 1 line at a Term. C C/P, which will have one installed next week


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