Hope at Last? Lawsuit Against Body Scanners
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As suggested before, we need to get a box truck and drive around the airport a few times with that message plastered to the side. If it was big enough, you could put the picture of the MMW & BKSX scans...
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Or higher a good civil rights attorney, since airports are public agencies and cannot hinder free speech. It's clearly unconstitutional. The 1st amendment was intended especially to protect criticism of government.
There's a distinction. Clear Channel as a private company is not obligated to facilitate your free speech. However, if Clear Channel refuses your advertising because a public agency will not allow it, you have a 1st amendment issue.
Bingo!
That's why airports that would rather squelch protesters & pamphleters altogether ended up with free speech booths.
The free speech booths were a compromise to limit in-your-face activities. They can't limit the message. I don't see how they can constitutionally restrict the message that is placed on billboards.
Quick question: If the Airport Authority has some final say about advertising messages, and the Airport Authority is part of the government... Would this not mean that in some way the government is restricting free speech? I realize that it wouldn't be the federal government that's doing this, because the Airport Authorities fall under more of a local/county government thing-- but there's got to be some argument here if a government organization won't approve ads that are critical of it...
That's why airports that would rather squelch protesters & pamphleters altogether ended up with free speech booths.
The free speech booths were a compromise to limit in-your-face activities. They can't limit the message. I don't see how they can constitutionally restrict the message that is placed on billboards.
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Or higher a good civil rights attorney, since airports are public agencies and cannot hinder free speech. It's clearly unconstitutional. The 1st amendment was intended especially to protect criticism of government.
There's a distinction. Clear Channel as a private company is not obligated to facilitate your free speech. However, if Clear Channel refuses your advertising because a public agency will not allow it, you have a 1st amendment issue.
There's a distinction. Clear Channel as a private company is not obligated to facilitate your free speech. However, if Clear Channel refuses your advertising because a public agency will not allow it, you have a 1st amendment issue.
In 1968, a group of Nashvillians from a cross-section of the community discussed plans for an innovative airport management structure that would bring their city and region into the modern era of aviation. Their goal was to provide a framework in which air carriers could interact with the community in a business-like manner. Authority planners did not want city taxpayers to bear all the costs of improved aviation. They wanted to establish a system of governance that would be self-financing and that would assure all future Nashvillians of a safe, efficient and modern airport. Ideas were offered by a diverse group of people in the community and were solicited from around the country. In 1969, this group, led by the late John C. Tune, drafted enabling legislation to establish an airport authority as a non-profit corporation separate from Metro Government. They worked diligently with state and local governments for this legislation's passage. The Tennessee General Assembly enacted the bill in 1969, and the Metropolitan Council passed resolution 70-872 creating the Metropolitan Nashville Airport Authority in April of 1970.
From here.
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I guess if advertising in the airport is an issue, what about in airline in-flight magazines. A big advertisment on the back of an AmericanWay would get some attention. Airlines are strapped for money and I don't think the TSA has any regulations for in-flight reading material.
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I guess if advertising in the airport is an issue, what about in airline in-flight magazines. A big advertisment on the back of an AmericanWay would get some attention. Airlines are strapped for money and I don't think the TSA has any regulations for in-flight reading material.
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Technically, it seems it is a non-profit corporation independent of metro government.
Bold is mine.
From here.
Bold is mine.
From here.
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I think some of it might also go to the fact that they don't want to be seen as a "supporter", in case a plane was blown out of the sky. If the published an article from a 3rd party stating that WBI is ineffective, you can bet that people might choose another airline, that decides not to be "friends" with "people like us"
Are there any attorneys out there who have any thoughts on stopping this invasion of our rights.
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OK, perhaps the OP can consider options near, but not at the airport. Billboard on road approaching the airport, advertisement on bus or subway line to the airport (haven't there been 1st amendment cases about these?), ad space at non-airport-owned remote parking lots, advertisement in/on taxis....
If the economy is, in fact, bad, there should be advertising space going begging...
If the economy is, in fact, bad, there should be advertising space going begging...
That's typically true. In most cases the airport has veto authority over any ad. And the advertising companies - Clear Channel in particular - are known to avoid ANY controversial issue. In most places, Clear Channel will not accept advertising for strip clubs, even if the clubs are legal.
I deal with media sales people several times a week, and all I've gathered is that most are quite chicken!@!@#$ when it comes to selling adspace to anything remotely controversial.
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I guess if advertising in the airport is an issue, what about in airline in-flight magazines. A big advertisment on the back of an AmericanWay would get some attention. Airlines are strapped for money and I don't think the TSA has any regulations for in-flight reading material.
PETA seems to get a lot of mileage for being turned down for advertising with airlines that I don't believe they ever really intended to go forward with, so that solves the budget issue.
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There you go. Get some of the gals who've done PETA ads to pose in a nude-o-scope. When those ads get refused you'll get all kinds of PR. Of course, you might have to fly to Lagos to get access to a nude-o-scope (and given their history, it's operators may pay you to have them pose).
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Would there be problems with these, printed with our message, and planted all over the parking lots?
Looking at $20/parked car even in small quantities and shipped to our folks.
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817517S.jpg
or
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817485S.jpg
Looking at $20/parked car even in small quantities and shipped to our folks.
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817517S.jpg
or
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817485S.jpg
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Would there be problems with these, printed with our message, and planted all over the parking lots?
Looking at $20/parked car even in small quantities and shipped to our folks.
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817517S.jpg
or
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817485S.jpg
Looking at $20/parked car even in small quantities and shipped to our folks.
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817517S.jpg
or
http://images.epromos.com/productimg/8817485S.jpg
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It will take some time and a little work. Time I do not have.
Otherwise, I'm in. Just PM details when ready. I'll help with a bit of the start up.
I gave a quick look at cafepress and they do not seem to offer this. It would have been easier.
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Okay, all we need is an entrepreneurial spirit to step up, a bunch of us pitch in a little capital, get the design, get it proofed, and off to the printer. We could even promise to cover initial orders, sort of a advance on future purchases.
It will take some time and a little work. Time I do not have.
Otherwise, I'm in. Just PM details when ready. I'll help with a bit of the start up.
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It will take some time and a little work. Time I do not have.
Otherwise, I'm in. Just PM details when ready. I'll help with a bit of the start up.
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FT TS/Sers, what do you say? Would you purchase one? We could setup a paypal account where people could pay the money for a car shade, which might make some feel a bit more comfortable..
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Hey - I love the thought process but the only problem is that at some airports they wouldn't be seen.
For instance, I park in the terminal at DFW. When I pulll my vehicle into the parking space I am right up against a concrete wall. It would never be seen by another single person.
Of course I only speak for myself. Folks who park out in open parking lots would get more bang for their buck. But these are the kinds of ideas we need more of!! ^
PS - What about starting off with bumper stickers? Easy and cheap??
For instance, I park in the terminal at DFW. When I pulll my vehicle into the parking space I am right up against a concrete wall. It would never be seen by another single person.
Of course I only speak for myself. Folks who park out in open parking lots would get more bang for their buck. But these are the kinds of ideas we need more of!! ^
PS - What about starting off with bumper stickers? Easy and cheap??