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okazon69 Nov 2, 2010 10:09 am

IATA: Replace outdated security
 
IATA's getting on board! ^

Outdated security systems introduced to combat plane hijackings 40 years ago must be overhauled to address new terrorism threats, the head of the International Air Transport Association (IATA) said Tuesday.

"Today's threats require a different approach and different technology," IATA's director-general Giovanni Bisignani told delegates at the AVSEC aviation security conference in Frankfurt.

More:

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/eu...ex.html?hpt=C1

Spiff Nov 2, 2010 10:14 am

:td:

"The Americans have taken the lead in deploying the latest technology. We should have an international agreement that those kind of standards are employed across the world to make sure there are no gaps in the system."

Most of the so-called "technology" being used is crap. ETP has been mothballed. ETD is hardly ever used. Nude-O-Scopes offer perverted views of passengers and little else. X-rays have been mistakenly used to identify explosives. The Americans have their heads up their posteriors when it comes to airport security.

doober Nov 2, 2010 10:21 am

This comment by Pistole is encouraging, but the again, maybe he's just parroting others to make them think he agrees:


"The bottom line is that the future must be focused on providing the best possible security for travelers in a way that provides greater scrutiny to those who need greater scrutiny, and not using a cookie cutter approach for everybody," he said.

Boggie Dog Nov 2, 2010 10:21 am


"The Americans have taken the lead in deploying the latest technology. We should have an international agreement that those kind of standards are employed across the world to make sure there are no gaps in the system."
I read this to mean more Strip Search Machines!

edit to add:


Just over half of all cargo traffic is shipped by cargo planes -- 58 percent -- while the remainder -- 42 percent -- travels in the cargo hold of passenger planes, according to IATA.
To restate, just under half of all cargo is carried on passenger aircraft, yet TSA does not directly inspect that cargo!

Ellie M Nov 2, 2010 10:23 am


"We can't just look for prohibited items because there's a list that says we have to and we shouldn't spend time trying to decipher between 3 ounces and 100 milliliters," Pistole said in a statement.

He said the threat to airport security could not be tackled using a "cookie cutter approach."

"The bottom line is that the future must be focused on providing the best possible security for travelers in a way that provides greater scrutiny to those who need greater scrutiny, and not using a cookie cutter approach for everybody," he said.
Also in the CNN article. Why are his actions the opposite of his statements?:mad:

FriendlySkies Nov 2, 2010 12:34 pm

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WOR...reening.gi.jpg

Look at the TSA barker. Notice that none of the pax are smiling, but most of them have strange facial expressions..

mre5765 Nov 2, 2010 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by doober (Post 15060030)
This comment by Pistole is encouraging, but the again, maybe he's just parroting others to make them think he agrees:

Agreed on both points. I hope Pistole has been given feedback that the money spigot is about to turn clock wise a couple turns. The money wasted on WBI would be better spent on screening 100% of the cargo that is carried by passenger airliners.

The intriguing thing is why did terrorists waited till now to attempt to blow up passenger airliners with cargo bombs and why did the plot fail?

PresRDC Nov 2, 2010 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15060982)
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WOR...reening.gi.jpg

Look at the TSA barker. Notice that none of the pax are smiling, but most of them have strange facial expressions..

Jazz Hands! :D

iluv2fly Nov 2, 2010 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15060982)


Originally Posted by PresRDC (Post 15062225)
Jazz Hands! :D

No, silly. CODE BRAVO!!!

FriendlySkies Nov 2, 2010 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly (Post 15063235)
No, silly. CODE BRAVO!!!

I think this might be more appropriate... :D

http://friendlyskies.smugmug.com/Oth..._urFvR-L-1.jpg

username_unknown Nov 2, 2010 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by okazon69 (Post 15059950)
"Today's threats require a different approach and different technology,"

translated: Nude-o-Scopes

chollie Nov 2, 2010 7:27 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 15059981)

"The Americans have taken the lead in deploying the latest technology. We should have an international agreement that those kind of standards are employed across the world to make sure there are no gaps in the system."

IE, "only technology developed in the US, patented in the US, and resulting in profits for folks like Chertoff will be deemed acceptable".

GUWonder Nov 2, 2010 9:14 pm

Replacement of outdated "security" with outdated "security"? No thanks.

Unfortunately, the voodoo "security" approach (read: akin to TSA BDOs) is what IATA, the UK government, BA and FR (amongst others) are looking at as the "replacement". That may "channel" the harassment in the guise of "security" but it will not eradicate the stupid "security" measures.


Villains who twirl their mustaches are easy to spot; those who clothe themselves in good deeds are well camouflaged ........ waiting for the right climate in which to flourish, spreading fear in the name of righteousness.
The one aspect of the current track of dialogues taking place in this regard which might actually eliminate some of the stupid "security": creation of a "safe" zone eliminating/ratcheting back the "security" measures applicable to transit passengers originating from the "safe" zone flight(s). Even that won't happen any time soon since that would require further changes to the physical plant of airports. And I doubt it would involve the US engaging in full reciprocity in this regard.


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