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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 15056439)
1. The officers on the line are doing what they are told.
This defense didn't work out to well for the Nazi's or more recently Sadam's baathists |
For now on I will be carrying around about a dozen of these letters in my shoulder bag.
http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf The next time any TSA clerk says "it's safe", or "trust us", or "I went through 25 hours of intense training" or any other BS line, simply pull one out of your bag, hand it to them, and say: "This may be above your reading level but give it a shot. You just might learn something." Printing them off tonight when I get home... |
I'll take the pat-down over the scanner any day....I'm sure whoever has to do it won't enjoy it any more than I will :p
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Originally Posted by manneca
(Post 15063249)
I opted out Friday at Memphis. The TSO said there was no more radiation than from the metal detector. I've had cancer and don't want to risk it
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Originally Posted by ZeppoX
(Post 15054893)
Thought about adding this to this thread, but it has become about lawsuits.
This morning at RDU I opted out of the nude-o-scope. The TSA person (who was very polite) asked me why. I told her I do not believe what the government says regarding radiation exposure. Professional in all other ways, she said -- and I wrote it down to quote: "Radiation has nothing to do with it. There is no radiation. It is just radio waves. I went through 25 hours of training on this thing, and that is all it is." Am I wrong in understanding that the 'scope uses X-rays -- that is, ionizing radiation? You may have gotten (un)lucky and gotten an MMW machine. MMW is physically safe, the radiation is non-ionizing. The first wave of NOS were all MMW. The second wave are BXR, for reasons the TSA refuses to explain. |
Originally Posted by Ayn R Key
(Post 15066993)
Some of the NOS are MMW, and some of the NOS are BXR. There are some where the problem is only constitutional, and there are some where the problem is both constitutional and medical.
You may have gotten (un)lucky and gotten an MMW machine. MMW is physically safe, the radiation is non-ionizing. http://current.com/news/91879541_ful...-human-dna.htm |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 15061064)
Lets look at that 25 hours of training.
Training day one, first hour of training time devoted to forming the class and other administrative activities, mid morning break for 15 minutes, one hour for lunch, mid afternoon break. 8 hour day, 1 hour admin, 30 minutes break, 1 hour lunch, 5:30 hours real training time Training day two: 15 minutes answering questions from day 1, 2 breaks totaling 30 minutes and lunch 1 hour. 8 hour day less 1:45, training time = 6:45 Day three same as day two, real training time 6:45 So for a scheduled 25 hour class (24 in this example) real training time =19 hours. Hardly time enough to learn complex equipment. The TSA has no desire to teach their screeners about the equipment any more than they have a desire to educate passengers.
Originally Posted by TXagogo
(Post 15064113)
For now on I will be carrying around about a dozen of these letters in my shoulder bag.
http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf The next time any TSA clerk says "it's safe", or "trust us", or "I went through 25 hours of intense training" or any other BS line, simply pull one out of your bag, hand it to them, and say: "This may be above your reading level but give it a shot. You just might learn something." Printing them off tonight when I get home... |
Originally Posted by Ayn R Key
(Post 15066993)
MMW is physically safe, the radiation is non-ionizing.
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Originally Posted by TXagogo
(Post 15064113)
For now on I will be carrying around about a dozen of these letters in my shoulder bag.
http://www.npr.org/assets/news/2010/05/17/concern.pdf |
Originally Posted by baglady
(Post 15067321)
MMW is non-ionizing, therefore doesn't cause genetic damage. The only danger is the dose, it is like warm water versus scalding water. BXR is ionizing and I won't get near one of those. I'm a scientist (kind of) and the difference between ionizing and non-ionizing is pretty basic stuff. By the way, MMW uses Gigahertz, and the article is discussing Terahertz. I could be wrong on that point, not that it makes much of a difference because both are on the safer end of the spectrum The article confuses MMW and X-Ray consistently. The picture provided is from the BXR, and yet they say it was generated by "millimeter wave technology and / or backscatter X-rays". It is clear that the article was not written by someone familiar with basic physics. I'm the last one to defend the TSA, I'm always attacking their bad science. But I must attack bad science that attacks the TSA too. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 15056610)
Re #1, the employee can do something else!
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Originally Posted by DIFIN
(Post 15056262)
wonder how long before a groper gets a knee in the chops.
hope its a woman that does it :mad: |
Originally Posted by Carnage
(Post 15070146)
What a moronic post. I would say that, no matter what I might think about someone's job, I hope they do not get assaulted by anyone....
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Originally Posted by Carnage
(Post 15070146)
What a moronic post. I would say that, no matter what I might think about someone's job, I hope they do not get assaulted by anyone....
I'm beyond caring. If they don't like the risk, they can get an honest job somewhere else. It's unlikely that it will be a FlyerTalker that takes that swing, for the simple reason that most of us will anticipate what's coming, but sooner or later it's going to happen. |
Originally Posted by Ayn R Key
(Post 15070192)
If someone's job is rapist, I regularly hope they get assaulted by their clients.
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