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pirossalma Oct 31, 2010 7:43 am

Babies through AIT?
 
The TSA site does not says anything about babies/toddlers going through AIT. What is the process for them? What happens if parents opt-out?
I am very familiar with the metal detector process - baby in my arm, but what now?

My question is both for our respected residential TSOs, as well as parents who had first-hand experience.

GUWonder Oct 31, 2010 9:09 am


Originally Posted by pirossalma (Post 15046604)
The TSA site does not says anything about babies/toddlers going through AIT. What is the process for them? What happens if parents opt-out?
I am very familiar with the metal detector process - baby in my arm, but what now?

My question is both for our respected residential TSOs, as well as parents who had first-hand experience.

Babies are not required to be strip searched by the TSA's machines. And toddlers? The TSA is going to have a difficult time trying to physically restrain all such children in a timely manner so as to stand "in position" long enough to let them generate images that may arouse the libido of pedophiles in its ranks.

Boggie Dog Oct 31, 2010 9:11 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 15046897)
Babies are not required to be strip searched by the TSA's machines. And toddlers? Good luck to the TSA trying to physically restrain such children so as to stand "in position" long enough to let the TSA generate images that may arouse the libido of pedophiles in its ranks.

No the babies will just get felt up by some government employee.

GUWonder Oct 31, 2010 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 15046906)
No the babies will just get felt up by some government employee.

That describes it.

eyecue Oct 31, 2010 9:25 am

The babies and toddlers are not subject to the AIT.

Tom M. Oct 31, 2010 9:27 am


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15046946)
The babies and toddlers are not subject to the AIT.

Have TSO's been instructed not to choose parents with babies and toddlers for the AIT?

Boggie Dog Oct 31, 2010 9:51 am


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15046946)
The babies and toddlers are not subject to the AIT.

Confirming that a government employee will just feel them up!

JSmith1969 Oct 31, 2010 10:16 am


Originally Posted by eyecue (Post 15046946)
The babies and toddlers are not subject to the AIT.

So how are you going to screen them and the people accompanying them? With WTMD, when I was traveling along with an infant I could put the child in a baby bjorn and just walk through the WTMD. Now do you expect me to put the child on the ground while a clerk gropes my genitals, or hold the child while some clerk checks their diaper?

coachrowsey Oct 31, 2010 10:50 am


Originally Posted by Boggie Dog (Post 15047030)
Confirming that a government employee will just feel them up!

And that's sad indeed:mad:

MikeMpls Oct 31, 2010 11:09 am

In either case one should not be walking through or near the strip search machines with an infant or toddler. The effects of ionizing radiation accumulate over a lifetime, and children who are too young to make an informed decision should not exposed to any that is not medically necessary and not administered with duly trained & license radiological technicians.

lostinthewash Oct 31, 2010 3:02 pm


Originally Posted by Tom M. (Post 15046953)
Have TSO's been instructed not to choose parents with babies and toddlers for the AIT?

If you are travelling from Canada into the US, it doesn't matter that the parent is travelling with children. If you, as the adult, are selected ... you are selected - bring your child with you or not. According to the CATSA office, the clerk at the "randomizer" cannot overrule the randomizer decision.

pirossalma Oct 31, 2010 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by JSmith1969 (Post 15047123)
So how are you going to screen them and the people accompanying them? With WTMD, when I was traveling along with an infant I could put the child in a baby bjorn and just walk through the WTMD. Now do you expect me to put the child on the ground while a clerk gropes my genitals, or hold the child while some clerk checks their diaper?

According the TSA's former rules, baby's are not allowed to be hold by TSOs or other pax. So where to put the kid? It seems a logistical nightmare for parents as well as TSO's.

Holidays are coming. In the next two months literally millions of parents are going to fly with their babies/toddlers. Most of them infrequent traveler, never even heard about AIT. Should not TSA advices them? On the website, by flyers, signs at the airport whatever? (Versus angry TSO's barking them conflicting orders at the airport.)

(Having baby grandsons, my question is genuine. I really do not know what to do, and I am a very experienced flyer.)


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