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Apr 25, 2011, 12:06 pm
#361
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Another abused breast cancer survivor
Another breast cancer survivor abused trying to go on vacation.
http://www.varight.com/news/breast-c...nd-va-airport/
http://www.varight.com/news/breast-c...nd-va-airport/
Apr 25, 2011, 1:14 pm
#362
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Another breast cancer survivor abused trying to go on vacation.
http://www.varight.com/news/breast-c...nd-va-airport/
http://www.varight.com/news/breast-c...nd-va-airport/
"But at this point, the Domestic terrorists all seem to wear TSA insignias."
May 16, 2011, 2:16 pm
#363
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This article describes a new letter to John Holdren about the TSA's unwillingness to allow independent scientific testing of actual WBI xray scanners:
http://www.propublica.org/article/sc...-body-scanners
The authors are the same scientists who wrote to Holdren late last year regarding the TSA's inattention to the fact that the radiation concentrates on the skin and thus may have a differential effect on skin than on other body tissue.
A good, thorough summary of the WBI backscatter health issues.
http://www.propublica.org/article/sc...-body-scanners
The authors are the same scientists who wrote to Holdren late last year regarding the TSA's inattention to the fact that the radiation concentrates on the skin and thus may have a differential effect on skin than on other body tissue.
A good, thorough summary of the WBI backscatter health issues.
May 16, 2011, 2:53 pm
#364
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I'm impressed with ProPublica's mission and thoroughness in carrying it out. This is the type of journalism that we should be encouraging more of and I hope some of you will take the time to drop Michael Grabell, the author, a line of appreciation.
About ProPublica:
ProPublica is an independent, non-profit newsroom that produces investigative journalism in the public interest. Our work focuses exclusively on truly important stories, stories with “moral force.” We do this by producing journalism that shines a light on exploitation of the weak by the strong and on the failures of those with power to vindicate the trust placed in them.
Investigative journalism is at risk. Many news organizations have increasingly come to see it as a luxury. Today’s investigative reporters lack resources: Time and budget constraints are curbing the ability of journalists not specifically designated “investigative” to do this kind of reporting in addition to their regular beats. This is therefore a moment when new models are necessary to carry forward some of the great work of journalism in the public interest that is such an integral part of self-government, and thus an important bulwark of our democracy.
Investigative journalism is at risk. Many news organizations have increasingly come to see it as a luxury. Today’s investigative reporters lack resources: Time and budget constraints are curbing the ability of journalists not specifically designated “investigative” to do this kind of reporting in addition to their regular beats. This is therefore a moment when new models are necessary to carry forward some of the great work of journalism in the public interest that is such an integral part of self-government, and thus an important bulwark of our democracy.
Last edited by essxjay; May 16, 2011 at 3:07 pm
May 16, 2011, 5:26 pm
#365
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This article describes a new letter to John Holdren about the TSA's unwillingness to allow independent scientific testing of actual WBI xray scanners:
http://www.propublica.org/article/sc...-body-scanners
The authors are the same scientists who wrote to Holdren late last year regarding the TSA's inattention to the fact that the radiation concentrates on the skin and thus may have a differential effect on skin than on other body tissue.
A good, thorough summary of the WBI backscatter health issues.
http://www.propublica.org/article/sc...-body-scanners
The authors are the same scientists who wrote to Holdren late last year regarding the TSA's inattention to the fact that the radiation concentrates on the skin and thus may have a differential effect on skin than on other body tissue.
A good, thorough summary of the WBI backscatter health issues.
But they could have done without this bit:
Originally Posted by Propublica
The machines, which are designed to reveal objects hidden under clothing, have the potential to close a significant security gap for the TSA because metal detectors can't find explosives or ceramic knives, which can be just as sharp as the box cutters that hijackers used on 9/11.
May 18, 2011, 5:30 am
#366
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Scientists Cast Doubt on TSA Tests of Full-Body Scanners
May 18, 2011, 7:17 am
#367
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If TSA actually followed it's own rules, it would take the scanners out of service until the health effects can be quantified, "out of an abundance of caution." (TM)
May 18, 2011, 8:24 am
#369
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There is no reason for the TSA to be opposed to an independent testing of the machines.
If the machines are as safe and effective as they say, then the machines can certainly withstand the scrutiny of independent inspection.
If the machines are as safe and effective as they say, then the machines can certainly withstand the scrutiny of independent inspection.
May 18, 2011, 8:38 am
#370
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Obviously, the statement would need to be slightly altered though.
May 18, 2011, 9:09 am
#371
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...that this is rejected simply means that tsa is afraid of the truth getting out about the invasiveness of the images and or the truth about the risks
May 18, 2011, 9:43 am
#373
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Yeah, but if you allow independent testing, that will give terrorists unlimited opportunities to figure out how to sneak contraband through them. :-)
May 18, 2011, 9:50 am
#374
In Memoriam
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"Independent" doesn't mean we're going to let Al Qaeda test them. I'm pretty sure we could get some well respected academics to test them, report on dose, and keep any national security info secret.
May 18, 2011, 10:16 am
#375
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