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T-the-B Oct 22, 2010 11:23 am


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 14993015)
I modeled a pair of wings about 7 years ago when a friend had a shop in the local airport, that pin can be adapted. I've located the art file and begun some modifications. There is currently a panel area in between the wings that could have a slogan, lettering or other detail. The chain wrap should be no problem. The pin could be cast in brass, sterling silver, or with a different casting process could be made in pewter. The original pin was about 2" long, but it can be made any size.

I'll offer two comments:

1. Perhaps a simple slogan like "I support Capt. Roberts" or "Let Capt. Roberts Fly." might be good on the pin.

2. Would it be best to have the pins be non-metallic so that we could wear them through the WTMD?

IslandBased Oct 22, 2010 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by T-the-B (Post 14993561)
I'll offer two comments:

1. Perhaps a simple slogan like "I support Capt. Roberts" or "Let Capt. Roberts Fly." might be good on the pin.

2. Would it be best to have the pins be non-metallic so that we could wear them through the WTMD?

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...re2252-pin.jpg

This is what I've modeled based on the previous input. I can add lettering. The rendering is taken from my CAD/CAM program, so it is still virtual.

I work in metal, this is what I can offer. I've corrected a couple of the chain links.

clrankin Oct 22, 2010 2:43 pm

That looks like something I'd buy-- great job!

How would it look if a pair of handcuffs could be added atop the radiation symbol? Would that be too crowded? Or would it be possible to put the words "AIT Free" atop the symbol somehow?

If the above ideas don't work, that's fine too as I think it looks really good as-is.

What would the cost be to produce these? I guess that's the next factor to consider.

IslandBased Oct 22, 2010 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by clrankin (Post 14994921)
That looks like something I'd buy-- great job!

How would it look if a pair of handcuffs could be added atop the radiation symbol? Would that be too crowded? Or would it be possible to put the words "AIT Free" atop the symbol somehow?

If the above ideas don't work, that's fine too as I think it looks really good as-is.

What would the cost be to produce these? I guess that's the next factor to consider.

Not on top, but under the rad symbol works.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...253-pin-v3.jpg

FriendlySkies Oct 22, 2010 4:29 pm


Originally Posted by clrankin (Post 14993557)
Perhaps Mr. Roberts will be out of the spotlight next week, but I still see a use for the pin in an organized anti-Nude-O-Scope sort of way. This item could be something that gets featured on the nudeoscope.com web site, as a way for passengers, FAs, GAs, pilots, etc., etc. to show their support for returning "security" to "sanity". Proceeds from the sale could go to Mr. Roberts (if he's without a job as a result of this), the ACLU, or some other organization with the good sense to stand up against the TSA.

+1

I could definitely put something on the website that goes to a store where people could purchase these...


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 14994790)
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...re2252-pin.jpg

This is what I've modeled based on the previous input. I can add lettering. The rendering is taken from my CAD/CAM program, so it is still virtual.

I work in metal, this is what I can offer. I've corrected a couple of the chain links.

I like it, and would definitely buy some!! ^

IslandBased Oct 22, 2010 5:26 pm


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 14995505)
+1

I could definitely put something on the website that goes to a store where people could purchase these...



I like it, and would definitely buy some!! ^

Thanks. This is something that I can contribute, but I will need some money for the production end. We need to set a price that will pay for the production costs and provide some help for a fund for Michael Roberts.

I will run the files over the weekend on my milling machine.

Each model goes into a separate rubber mold, the mold is vulcanized, wax is injected into the cavity, then the pins are lost wax cast in precious or non-precious alloys. That part is done by a sub-contractor, certain metals are cast less often than others. From there it comes back to my studio for de-spruing, finishing, and some type of packaging.

FetePerfection Oct 22, 2010 6:34 pm

I still think Captain Roberts needs a Facebook Fan Page - that JetBlue kook has over 200,000 fans

IrishDoesntFlyNow Oct 23, 2010 8:48 am


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 14995073)
Not on top, but under the rad symbol works.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...253-pin-v3.jpg


"AIT Free" is a great little logo. Could easily spark questions that I'd be happy to answer. I'd buy some, and add a link to my dinky little google page.

~~ Irish

IslandBased Oct 23, 2010 8:59 am


Originally Posted by IrishDoesntFlyNow (Post 14998515)
"AIT Free" is a great little logo. Could easily spark questions that I'd be happy to answer. I'd buy some, and add a link to my dinky little google page.

~~ Irish

Thanks Irish, clrankin suggested the logo, and polar man the wings with chain. The radiation symbol was my idea.

I just called a friend who does my computer stuff (also a Mooney pilot) to get a website started to sell the pin from.

Note: I don't think it is appropriate to discuss pricing on this thread, so PM me and I can give interested parties a breakdown of the costs involved.

In my conversation with my friend, we have come up with a couple of alternatives to lost wax casting- he has a 1 1/4 inch button making machine that we can put the graphics on, and a possible injection molded plastic pin.

BStrauss3 Oct 23, 2010 8:38 pm

Try EvolveFish:

http://www.EvolveFISH.com/fish/media...Wasn't.gif

FriendlySkies Oct 23, 2010 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by BStrauss3 (Post 15001471)

haha.. True, unfortunately :(


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 14995073)
Not on top, but under the rad symbol works.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...253-pin-v3.jpg

I really like it with the AIT FREE added. How long do you think it would take to get some of these made? Any ideas of prices?

Thanks ^^

mozgytog Oct 24, 2010 6:39 am


Originally Posted by FriendlySkies (Post 15001474)
haha.. True, unfortunately :(



I really like it with the AIT FREE added. How long do you think it would take to get some of these made? Any ideas of prices?

Thanks ^^

I like those, and would be interested in buying one to wear.

essxjay Oct 24, 2010 6:43 am


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 14995073)
Not on top, but under the rad symbol works.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...253-pin-v3.jpg

Nice!

Seriously, how much and how soon can I get one? I'd love to have it in time for the next FT Do in Seattle. :cool:

IslandBased Oct 24, 2010 10:18 am


Originally Posted by essxjay (Post 15002799)
Nice!

Seriously, how much and how soon can I get one? I'd love to have it in time for the next FT Do in Seattle. :cool:

I've PMed you.

My friend Rif and I are going to do a 1 1/4 inch button using the graphic design on his hand button press, I've been talking to him today.

We are trying to work out the fulfillment issues. Any help would be appreciated.

IslandBased Nov 10, 2010 7:14 pm

The first two pins are back from the casting process.


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