Stupid Question: Why same sex pat-downs?
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I'm not sure what would happen if Pat came through a checkpoint ...
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The passenger has to be able to choose the gender of screener. Under TSA's policy the gender of the screener is the gender that the passenger presents themselves to me. Many transgender people reject the concept of binary gender and will consider themselves male one day and female another. They are entitled to a same-gender screener at all times.
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Wow. This has absolutely nothing to do with sexual orientation or, at least, nothing to do with the sexual orientation of the screener. As I said, none of my business and I couldn't care less. It only has to do with my comfort level which is dictated by my sexual orientation. Because of my sexual orientation, my preference is that my private parts be touched only someone of the opposite gender. If a man does it, I'm not uncomfortable because I think he's getting off, but because I'm not comfortable with men touching my private parts.
That this whole topic should blow you away is rather silly. I'm sure you've taken a dump/leak in a men's bathroom hundreds of times, you showered with other males in school, swimming etc, changed with other males and likely hang around with them. That suddenly you expect an opposite sex pat down seems silly. It's not a sexual act. I was patted down last week and it wasn't anything unusual.
Perhaps you might want to navigate over to the main constitution wiki and look up the third article. That's the mechanism that citizens can use to dispute laws if they feel their rights are being violated. It's odd that the tin foil hat wearers complain about all of this being unconstitutional and yet none of it has been shut down by a lawsuit.
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Lots of things that are unconstitutional go on for a long time before they are shut down by lawsuits. The length of time something is/has been going on does not determine it's constitutionality or lack thereof.
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If it's not a sexual act, why does the sex of the screener vis a vis the passenger even matter? Shouldn't it just be "Whichever screener is there is what you get."? After all, it's completely TOTALLY non sexual...
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That this whole topic should blow you away is rather silly. I'm sure you've taken a dump/leak in a men's bathroom hundreds of times, you showered with other males in school, swimming etc, changed with other males and likely hang around with them. That suddenly you expect an opposite sex pat down seems silly. It's not a sexual act. I was patted down last week and it wasn't anything unusual.
While it may not make everyone totally satisfied, it would at least take a step in the right direction toward satisfying a numer of fliers who have concerns over these types of things.
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How about "Hi, I'm Jack, a closted homosexual male - please don't tell my family. Is it OK if I start your pat-down now?" OR "Hi, I'm Jack,basically a straight male but I do have to admit to being a bit bi-curious now and then... Is it OK if I start your pat-down now?"