Nude-O-Scope Objections
 

I'm curious about the nude-o-scope objections, and particularly what concerns people have.

The issues seem to be these three:

1. It slows things down
2. It's an invasion of privacy
3. There's a potential radiation risk

To me, #1 is the biggest issue.

Over the weekend, Total Recall was on, and I found myself thinking, during the scene in the subway, when Ahnuld runs past the scanner, which sees the gun on him, "would I object if there were a walkthrough nude-o-scope which meant I could just keep my belongings with me, no need to go through the WTMD, or put anything through the x-ray?" I don't think I would, even if there was a TSA minion in a booth somewhere who could see my personal bits.

How do others on this board feel? If 1 and 3 were resolved, and, in exchange for the nude-o-scope imaging, security became a smoother, faster, simpler process, would that be worth it? Genuinely curious.

no...

Absolutely not.

It is unnecessary.

The only check should be:

WTMD
ETP/ETD
x-ray bags

and nothing else without clear, probable cause to do so.

Do we really need another thread on this ? It's been done to death, everyone has his/her own opinion and nobody is likely to be swayed by the other side.

Anyway it just gives YKW another chance to spew his drivel. Who needs it ?

Nope.

One point you missed in your analysis is that there is genuine concern that the scanners are not effective or are no more effective than the WTMD and ETP/ETD.

If that is the case, why spend the money to install these things that only add concerns?

The people with the most security are in prison. That’s why it’s called ‘MAXIMUM security.’

The more security you have, the less freedom you have.^

What SPIFF said, NO WAY am I going through one of these & let some TSA pervert see me:td::mad:

Why should anyone need to justify their opposition to being treated like a criminal just to get on a commercial aircraft.

What other business do you or anyone else trade with that shakes you down like a criminal?

Being treated like that seems to show that the business doesn't want my trade.

To me, no amount of convenience is worth giving up the privacy that is lost when going through one of those things.

At a minimum, I'm willing to wait in line longer and spend more time at the checkpoint if it means that my privacy isn't invaded. At a maximum, I am prepared for the inconvenience of driving from coast to coast and not flying in commercial aircraft again if these body scanners become mandatory for all passengers.

Perhaps my views are a bit extreme in this instance, but that's simply the way I feel. TSA is an agency that thinks about invasiveness and self-propagation first, with nary a thought toward how their position effectively tramples the Fourth and Fifth Amendments until forced to by the Courts or Congress. So far neither of those institutions have seen fit to rein in TSA in their activities to terrorize the flying public while looking for relatively non-existant and sometimes imaginery threats-- and that's unfortunate.

^^

Rounding out the top ten objections:

4. It's not effective
5. It's corruption / nepotism in action (Chertoff connection)
6. It's already been lied about by TSA
7. High potential for abuse re: image retention and tramsmittal
8. Prurience, e.g. TSOs herding cute girls / women to NoS, shrugging at others
9. Concealment of opt-out option
10. Increased chance of theft with prolonged separation from all personal items

Need any more?

No. I am an American. I object to being strip searched without probable cause.

Republicans request review of airport scanner safety
 

Finally, somebody is questioning Nappy!
(Not likely to go anywhere, but a good start)

http://www.securityinfowatch.com/node/1317131

Republicans request review of airport scanner safety
 

These the same Republicans whose silence on the issue was deafening while there was a Republican administration ?

Safety isn't the number 1 concern for a lot of objectors anyway.
Partisan silliness, nothing will come of it :mad: .

OK, I'm not much for action flicks so I've never seen the movie. IMDB has this in part of the synopsis:

Doug narrowly gets to Mars, which is a domed colony. Many of the people on Mars are mutants with deformed features and psychic abilities caused by the mixture of radiation and shoddy air quality provided by Cohaagen. After a close encounter at the airport, Doug befriends Benny, a mutant taxi driver, and meets Melina (who strongly resembles the woman he requested at Rekall), who doesn't believe his story and orders him to leave at gunpoint.

Uh, I think I'll pass on that dystopian future. :eek: Did the mutants get irradiated by the Nude-O-Scopes? :p