N830MH

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38114138

This is not good for AA who stolens the guns from checked bags. They took the guns from Israeli security into checked bags. This is not real specific time for me at all. When the bags is already sent to LAX and I believe TSA didn't opened the bags who they found the guns is missing. Airlines wasn't taking own responsibilities to kept guns locked the case.

Ari

Thanks for posting this. ^

Very interesting.

This is interesting: "One source said the bag was inspected by Transportation Security Administration screeners who put a seal over the bag at Kennedy Airport, clearing the weapons for shipment to Washington."

I wasn't aware that the TSA clears weapons . . .

IslandBased

Surprise, surprise, surprise.... Something missing? Misplaced? Did the luggage handlers make you look bad?

After eight years, how far along is TSA in securing what goes into the belly of a commercial aircraft, anyway?

sailman

I hope the Israeli government is more successful at recovering the cost of their property then many posters to FF. I suspect AA will claim the property was taken by someone affiliated with the TSA, and the TSA will claim the property was taken by an airport employee.

Good Luck

Boggie Dog

Isn't there some regulation that prohibits placing a "Notice of Guns" on the outside of baggage?

TSO1973

Last time my dad flew somewhere with a gun, the airline put a label around the bag saying "FIREARMS" in great big red letters all over it.

The seal that TSA puts on a bag simply says "TSA Inspected" on it. No reference to what is in the bag at all.

TSA doesn't "clear" them in the sense of physically checking weapons. Clear in this sense is ensuring that the firearms are properly packed in a locked container and have been declared. If a firearm would ever have to be physically checked, a LEO does that.

jbdk

+1.. instead of working together to solve this issue, they will play the blame game. Been through that with TSA and AA myself.

cordelli

Supposedly now only one gun is missing according to AA late last night, which makes you think they may have found three of them.

They are also wondering why the plane flew to New York, it was a charter and was supposed to go directly to DC

American Airlines has not commented on the incident and it is not clear whether the guns were stolen in New York or in Los Angeles. The theft was an embarrassment for airport security at JFK airport in New York.

Officials did not explain why the plane landed in New York instead of flying directly to Washington.

I was wondering why they were taking a connecting flight instead of going direct.

Gargoyle

They earn more miles on a connex.
Proof positive that Israeli security reads FlyerTalk.

FriendlySkies

+1

I wonder if we will ever find out what happened, or if it will continue with the "he said, she said" game...

Oceanrider

Will AA give them extra miles as consolation for their experience? As this was likely part of an international itin, their claim may be limited under the Montreal Convention to about $1,000.00.

Boggie Dog

If the airlines put a sticker on saying "Firearms" then I would call that a real dumb policy.

If TSA places a seal only on bags containing firearms then that also raises questions. If it is on every bag then that would be different.

No indication of contents should be indicated on the outside of the bags.

cordelli

The official says that investigators have reviewed videotape surveillance from JFK and saw the carrying case with the now-missing guns being loaded onto the wrong, Los Angeles-bound American Airlines plane. The official said that investigators now believe that the case was mistakenly routed to Los Angeles and that the guns disappeared there. The case had on a wrong routing tag that may have been left on the case from past airline trips.

SATTSO

TSA does not place any sticker/seal on a bag which has a firearm inside. What TSO1973 was saying is depending on the baggage layout, we place a seal on every bag that it has been inspected.

Hmmm the other day I was working SW baggage and after a bag came through the CTX I went to put the inspection sticker on the baggage tag. The problem was there was 2 baggage destination tags. Both dated July 5th, going to different destinations, with different passenger names on it.

The SW ticket counter people were very busy, and obviously someone got confused and "tagged" a bag that was already tagged by another counter agent.

I wonder what would have happened if I hadn't caught that mistake? Maybe the SW baggage handler would have caught it? Dunno. And I wonder how common this mistake is.

I won't tell you how the SW counter agents figure out who's bag it was, passenger 1 or passenger 2-- no they did not call back either passenger to ask if it was their bag

N830MH

I believe NYPA will ever to arrested TSO? He was trying to attempted stolens guns from checked bags. I believe he switched the guns in another checked bags and then, they sent the guns to LAX is wrong destinations cities. That was not appropriate to AA to put the bags tags for correctly right city code should be exact. It should have sending to DCA instead of going to LAX. It wasn't nobody their own fault from AA ticket agent. Who is your fault?

I think airlines will have more investigators to do review security surveillance camera again to find any incident against TSA officers to search the bags in the ETD. I believe TSA is big gravely mistaken for what they done something to Israeli security. I think they will have enough more evidence to find illegal activities. Hopefully if they will have to get disciplinary actions against TSO.