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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14199950)
You are putting a lot on TSA and it is all anecdotal.
I have spoken to pax that did not want to go to Disney because it is getting too expensive. To say that we have lost everything that you stated because of TSA is ludicrous. |
I also would not visit or spend one dime in Chicago due to hand gun ban.
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14199950)
You are putting a lot on TSA and it is all anecdotal.
I have spoken to pax that did not want to go to Disney because it is getting too expensive. To say that we have lost everything that you stated because of TSA is ludicrous. Speaking only for myself and many other people I know, travel to USA is at a bare minimum in large part because of the hassles. |
Originally Posted by coachrowsey
(Post 14200161)
I also would not visit or spend one dime in Chicago due to hand gun ban.
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Originally Posted by greentips
(Post 14198402)
We have lost an Olympic Bid.
We have lost a World Cup bid. |
Originally Posted by user1
(Post 14200402)
OTOH, imagine what we've saved in bribes.
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Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 14200458)
Imagine what we (Chicago) lost in bribes from our shows going away.
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Originally Posted by nhcowboy
(Post 14198301)
Really? REALLY??? After everything the OP went through, and the utterly unconscionable invasion of both her privacy and that of her son, you want to take it one step further and throw her son's toilet training into the mix??? Really - that is the question you come away with after reading her blog?
I am appalled by the treatment the OP received at the hands of the TSA. I am equally appalled by your response. :td::td::td: I hadn't even made the connection between the diaper and being 4 years old.
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 14199321)
Who wants to bet that checkpoint video will be unavailable for whatever reason TSA can come up with?
As another smart poster commented * "Oops ... the cameras aren't working" [EWR] * "Oops ... the cameras weren't pointing at the incident" [ABQ] * "Oops ... we deleted the video" [PHL] http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14146228-post214.html |
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish. Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry. |
Originally Posted by baliktad
(Post 14201438)
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish. Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry. |
if anyone ever doubted the critical thinking ability of employee's of the TSA, there above, you have an excellent example...
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Originally Posted by baliktad
(Post 14201438)
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish. Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry. It should also be noted that this is 30 frames per second so we if drop that to 15 then we would get sixteen days of video on a single drive. Disk space is cheep. If they don't have the video it is because they don't want to have the video. |
combatmedic - yeah those costs and rates are inline with prices from retail outlets, they drop 5-20% depending on the qty ordered. You can get a OEM builders pack(10) of 2TB Western Digital Caviar RE 32mb cache, 7200 RPM drives for 1100.
I helped a friend put in a video/audio survalliance system in at his studio where there are 30+ cameras feeding HD feeds 24/7 and he can fit a whole days recording on a single DL DVD, but still has a server with a 10TB data array. All of that cost $5K. TSA doesnt need that many cameras at the CP and in volume could do alot better pricing then that. I still think the reason the tape disappeared is TSA didnt want it to come to light due to them looking bad. Which also falls in to the pattern of past behavior and evidence, which also is insight into future events and behavior. |
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 14199321)
Who wants to bet that checkpoint video will be unavailable for whatever reason TSA can come up with?
TSA has a NEGATIVE social value, IMO.
Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 14200015)
The TSA in Chicago must be really bad, 'cause we're losing conventions left and right!
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