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kseaflyer Jun 20, 2010 2:16 pm

Back pat downs for everyone?
 
Flew out of Seattle to DC yesterday and they were giving back pat downs to everyone regardless of whether you set the metal detector not. They also "tested" my shoes, no idea why.

Spiff Jun 20, 2010 2:23 pm

File a complaint: 1-866-289-9673

There's no excuse for such disgusting, un-American harassment without probable cause. If possible, report the name of your harasser(s) when making your complaint.

davef139 Jun 20, 2010 5:05 pm

My guess would be they had intel for something that was to occur.

Spiff Jun 20, 2010 5:25 pm


Originally Posted by davef139 (Post 14166678)
My guess would be they had intel for something that was to occur.

I seriously doubt there was any new credible threat.

Intelligence pretty much bypasses the disgusting, un-American agency called TSA.

Mats Jun 21, 2010 8:05 am

That wasn't intel. That was someone's idea of unpredictable screening. It really just delays and annoys passengers, and probably annoys the TSA staff who have to do it.

In the meetings when these measures are announced, nobody asks, "How will this help or protect our passengers?"

N965VJ Jun 21, 2010 2:47 pm

Well now there's a change. Usually the TSA pats itself on the back. :p

Spiff Jun 21, 2010 2:48 pm

"Please change your gloves."

JSmith1969 Jun 21, 2010 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 14171704)
"Please change your gloves."

"Change your gloves" works, too.

Tutu Jun 21, 2010 4:40 pm

I received a back pat down 2 weeks ago in Redmond, OR. My husband received on in Atlanta, GA last Friday. In Redmond it was a female TSA and she checked my back and the lady behind. I am not sure if others backs were patted down or not. In Atlanta, I went through and was not subjected to the back pat down. My husband followed me and had his back patted down...it was a male TSA agent. So I am wondering what this new "back pat down" is all about and if it has to be female-female and male-male.

TSO1973 Jun 21, 2010 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by Tutu (Post 14172307)
I received a back pat down 2 weeks ago in Redmond, OR. My husband received on in Atlanta, GA last Friday. In Redmond it was a female TSA and she checked my back and the lady behind. I am not sure if others backs were patted down or not. In Atlanta, I went through and was not subjected to the back pat down. My husband followed me and had his back patted down...it was a male TSA agent. So I am wondering what this new "back pat down" is all about and if it has to be female-female and male-male.

Any screening involving making physical contact with the passenger is done by a same-sex TSO.

Superguy Jun 21, 2010 8:29 pm


Originally Posted by davef139 (Post 14166678)
My guess would be they had intel for something that was to occur.

If there was real intel, the last thing they'd be doing is sharing it with some uncleared flunkie who can't keep SSI a secret (unless it's to cover their behinds).

ORDofcr Jun 22, 2010 1:38 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 14172602)
Any screening involving making physical contact with the passenger is done by a same-sex TSO.

Assuming that you are at a large airport. Go to some small airport where one person may be running the xray, metal detector, and doing tic all by themselves. It is possible to receive "secondary" screening by a TSO of the opposite gender, although it is not likely. I love when the creepy (sorry to pick on them) older gentlemen ask for the 22 year old blond female to "assist" them.


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 14171704)
"Please change your gloves."

Sure, no problem.


Originally Posted by JSmith1969 (Post 14171759)
"Change your gloves" works, too.

"No problem, anything for you buddy;):rolleyes:" works, too.


Originally Posted by Mats (Post 14169365)
That wasn't intel. That was someone's idea of unpredictable screening. It really just delays and annoys passengers, and probably annoys the TSA staff who have to do it.

In the meetings when these measures are announced, nobody asks, "How will this help or protect our passengers?"

That someone is a computer, spitting out randomly generated search types to be conducted.
Change probably to definitely.


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 14166743)
I seriously doubt there was any new credible threat.

Agree. ^


Originally Posted by davef139 (Post 14166678)
My guess would be they had intel for something that was to occur.

Disagree. :td:

Himeno Jun 22, 2010 2:10 am


Originally Posted by TSO1973 (Post 14172602)
Any screening involving making physical contact with the passenger is done by a same-sex TSO.

Same presumed sex.


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