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Metal rods in back - going through Security?
Hello all. In July, I'll be taking my 15-year old half sister on vacation, on her first ever airplane flight. Last year, she had surgery and now has some metal rods implanted in her back. Her mother has told me she'll have documentation from the hospital explaining about the metal inside her.
Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing as relates to the TSA? What is the best procedure? Do we tell someone before she goes through the metal detector? Or do we let her go through first, and then start trying to explain it after it's gone off? If we do tell someone, who? The first TSA rep, who looks at our boarding pass? Or the one on the other side of the metal detector, before she walks through? After they've been informed, what can she/we expect to have happen? She's 15 - is she really going to have to be patted down by a TSA rep? Is there a chance they're going to need to do a more invasive search than that? Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by mritty
(Post 13751867)
Hello all. In July, I'll be taking my 15-year old half sister on vacation, on her first ever airplane flight. Last year, she had surgery and now has some metal rods implanted in her back. Her mother has told me she'll have documentation from the hospital explaining about the metal inside her.
Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing as relates to the TSA? What is the best procedure? Do we tell someone before she goes through the metal detector? Or do we let her go through first, and then start trying to explain it after it's gone off? If we do tell someone, who? The first TSA rep, who looks at our boarding pass? Or the one on the other side of the metal detector, before she walks through? After they've been informed, what can she/we expect to have happen? She's 15 - is she really going to have to be patted down by a TSA rep? Is there a chance they're going to need to do a more invasive search than that? Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by mritty
(Post 13751867)
Hello all. In July, I'll be taking my 15-year old half sister on vacation, on her first ever airplane flight. Last year, she had surgery and now has some metal rods implanted in her back. Her mother has told me she'll have documentation from the hospital explaining about the metal inside her.
Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing as relates to the TSA? What is the best procedure? Do we tell someone before she goes through the metal detector? Or do we let her go through first, and then start trying to explain it after it's gone off? If we do tell someone, who? The first TSA rep, who looks at our boarding pass? Or the one on the other side of the metal detector, before she walks through? After they've been informed, what can she/we expect to have happen? She's 15 - is she really going to have to be patted down by a TSA rep? Is there a chance they're going to need to do a more invasive search than that? Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by TSO1973
(Post 13752093)
Best advice I can tell you is to let the officer working the metal detector that she will most likely alarm the WTMD because of the rods. At that point if she alarms then she will go into secondary screening. As with other medical devices (metal knees, replacement hips, etc), there will be screening done with a hand held metal detector and a pat down done by a female officer.
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Originally Posted by Drummer
(Post 13752258)
This is consistent with my experience with my replacement knee. All the documentation in the world won't help one bit. I do always tell them about the knee as I am about to enter the WTMD, just so they won't be too 'alarmed' by the alarm. But I get the full treatment every time, and for me that's about 80 flights a year.
However, we should all know by now that not everyone is telling the truth, especially the guy the other day at my airport who had metal knees. Oh, and a knife strapped to his leg. Whoops, forgot about that!
Originally Posted by mritty
Hello all. In July, I'll be taking my 15-year old half sister on vacation, on her first ever airplane flight. Last year, she had surgery and now has some metal rods implanted in her back. Her mother has told me she'll have documentation from the hospital explaining about the metal inside her.
Does anyone have experience with this sort of thing as relates to the TSA? What is the best procedure? Do we tell someone before she goes through the metal detector? Or do we let her go through first, and then start trying to explain it after it's gone off? If we do tell someone, who? The first TSA rep, who looks at our boarding pass? Or the one on the other side of the metal detector, before she walks through? After they've been informed, what can she/we expect to have happen? She's 15 - is she really going to have to be patted down by a TSA rep? Is there a chance they're going to need to do a more invasive search than that? Any tips or advice would be much appreciated. |
Originally Posted by senseker
(Post 13752345)
And I soo wish that if you brought documentation, we wouldn't have to wand/patdown everyone who has medical implants, such as metal rods, metal knees, or whatever.
However, we should all know by now that not everyone is telling the truth, especially the guy the other day at my airport who had metal knees. Oh, and a knife strapped to his leg. Whoops, forgot about that!
Originally Posted by senseker
(Post 13752345)
When you approach the metal detector, tell the TSO that your sister has metal rods....
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Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 13752434)
That's confusing. You say that there's no reason to believe a passenger, yet you say that's what should be done?
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Originally Posted by senseker
(Post 13752448)
Well, it would be rather silly to tell the TSO "Well, you won't believe me anyways, so i'm just not going to telll you what I have."
And I have heard one passenger say that "you're not going to believe me anyway" line before. I think it was in response to asking if there was any sharp items in the bag (which is a dumb question in the first place). |
Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 13752434)
That's confusing. You say that there's no reason to believe a passenger, yet you say that's what should be done?
I mean, all (I think) senseker is suggesting is saying "I'm going to set off the metal detector and will need secondary screening." There's no question of whether or not to trust the passenger; the passenger is still going to walk through the WTMD and prove the statement true. But stating so ahead of time may establish that the passenger understands the procedures to be followed next and is willing to cooperate with them ... which might help to ease the tension caused by secondary screening ever so slightly. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 13752512)
Well ... I suppose it shows a willingness to cooperate, and an understanding of the expectation of what's to come.
I mean, all (I think) senseker is suggesting is saying "I'm going to set off the metal detector and will need secondary screening." There's no question of whether or not to trust the passenger; the passenger is still going to walk through the WTMD and prove the statement true. But stating so ahead of time may establish that the passenger understands the procedures to be followed next and is willing to cooperate with them ... which might help to ease the tension caused by secondary screening ever so slightly. |
Originally Posted by LessO2
(Post 13752434)
Okay, fair enough.
That's confusing. You say that there's no reason to believe a passenger, yet you say that's what should be done? I have have some people attempt multiple times, removing their watch, glasses, yet they keep alarming, then they ask about their implant, ask if that coukd be causing the alarm. Answer: yes, and thus, no need to remove watch or glasses, etc. It's actually very helpful for somone to tell us about their metalic implant. Doctors notes are useless in that they dont allow the passenger to avoid secondary screening. It has nothing to do with that we don't believe them. More than a few passengers have had knives and such on them (even a few guns) and said they shouldn't be screened because it was just their metal hip or knee. |
A minor at 15 years of age?
Isn't a child of 15 considered a minor in most states? Won't the original poster need some sort of documentation from the half-sister's parent(s) authorizing the original poster to bring the minor aboard? Is the original poster male, or female?
I find this part of the situation much more troubling than surgical rods setting off alarms. |
I'm pretty sure the airlines let you fly so long as you're 12 or older.
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Originally Posted by JohnWM
(Post 13781130)
Isn't a child of 15 considered a minor in most states? Won't the original poster need some sort of documentation from the half-sister's parent(s) authorizing the original poster to bring the minor aboard? Is the original poster male, or female?
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Well, that would be REAL mission creep. Yet, too bad we can't do that since it potentially could be a federal crime, if it were some adult taking a minor across state lines for immoral purposes.
Just TOOOOOOOOOOO much crime in the world, you can run as fast as you can and remain where you are. |
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