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Originally Posted by CaptainMiles
(Post 13456798)
I've seen that too. I happened to be deplaning right after the "couple of interest". They got escorted off by the TSA people waiting for them in the jetway, and folks behind them did not get their passports checked in the jetway.
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Why did anyone stop for TSA *after* the flight? Just walk on by.
Originally Posted by schematic
(Post 13456259)
UA896 arrived in Chicago today, only about 30 minutes late, but exiting the plane took forever because the TSA was checking each passenger's passport at the exit of the jetway.
Seriously: Why would anyone think TSA has any authority to examine his paperwork after a flight? |
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13457364)
If I'm headed for the exit at an airport
We've had two posters now reporting TSA screeners are meeting arriving international aircraft. I just haven't noticed it. Have you? |
This is almost certainly CBP. It's done as an anti-asylum measure.
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Originally Posted by stevenshev
(Post 13457544)
This is almost certainly CBP. It's done as an anti-asylum measure.
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Originally Posted by 1KChinito
(Post 13456534)
If that is the case, wouldn't it be much easier and faster by just examining the manifest, board the plane as soon as the door is open, go to the seat and retrieve the subject PAX?
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This happened for me on the exact same flight about 10 days ago. Made everyone open up their passports and show them on the ramp going down to customs.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns. I see this once or twice a year at ORD. |
Originally Posted by stevenshev
(Post 13457544)
This is almost certainly CBP. It's done as an anti-asylum measure.
FB
Originally Posted by iluv2fly
(Post 13457918)
This happened for me on the exact same flight about 10 days ago. Made everyone open up their passports and show them on the ramp going down to customs.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns. I see this once or twice a year at ORD. |
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 13458718)
Customs Officers wear dark blue.
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Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 13458710)
Please explain? anti-asylum measure?
FB People who flush their passports on board and then arrive at passport control "undocumented," claiming to be from a country for which the USA offers asylum. Happens more than you might think. I have gone through federal SIDA training and can assure you that TSA staff does not have authorization to enter any airport jetway unescorted, much less one within a sterile international arrivals area. The OP must be referring to either CBP or ICE, both of which are federal law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration/customs laws. On several occasions arriving from Europe, I have had to show my passport to ICE and/or CBP officers right at the door of the aircraft. TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and has very few sworn LEOs on its payroll. TSA would not be conducting any checks within a sterile international arrivals area, because TSOs are not authorized to work in that area. |
Originally Posted by ESpen36
(Post 13458847)
People who flush their passports on board and then arrive at passport control "undocumented," claiming to be from a country for which the USA offers asylum.
Happens more than you might think. FB
Originally Posted by ESpen36
(Post 13458887)
I have gone through federal SIDA training and can assure you that TSA staff does not have authorization to enter any airport jetway unescorted, much less one within a sterile international arrivals area. The OP must be referring to either CBP or ICE, both of which are federal law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration/customs laws. On several occasions arriving from Europe, I have had to show my passport to ICE and/or CBP officers right at the door of the aircraft.
TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and has very few sworn LEOs on its payroll. TSA would not be conducting any checks within a sterile international arrivals area, because TSOs are not authorized to work in that area. FB
Originally Posted by iluv2fly
(Post 13458732)
Sue me.
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Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 13458996)
I am aware of how often it happens. It also doesn't change how the subject is processed by CBP. It doesn't matter if the subject is undocumented at the door to the aircraft, undocumentd in the jetway, or undocumented at the booth he no longer has a passport and is claiming asylum.
Whereas if he turns up at the booth and claims to be on a different flight from a different place, probably using a false name, it becomes harder to sort out who he is. Doesn't help if he destroys his passport after leaving the plane but before the CBP booth, of course. I bag TSA (and occasionally CBP) for bone-headed moves, but this one sorta makes sense. |
Originally Posted by Firebug4
(Post 13458996)
I am not trying to be smart. There was a time not to long ago that when filing a complaint you had to specify what color uniform the officer was wearing because there were three seperate agencies working that hall. It would be one of the only ways to track down who was responsible for the action.
FB Definitely not blue, dark blue, dark, dark blue - black. |
No one greeted us on our rtn to ATL in JAN from FCO :( Maybe we weren't special enough to warrant a visit.
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Originally Posted by Italy98
(Post 13459295)
No one greeted us on our rtn to ATL in JAN from FCO :( Maybe we weren't special enough to warrant a visit.
Be thankful. As I was in C on the 747, I was one of the first dozen off. Even then there was a small line while they checked your passport and verified it was yours. You can imagine the line and backup when the other 200+ people in Y were coming out and lining up. |
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