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Originally Posted by TheRoadie
(Post 13350958)
You allowed that?
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 13349262)
Lets see...
I have a Nalgene that I travel with all of the time. It is usually half-full, but I once took it through full! Not even a peep from the screener.... I work in an IT Department, so when I travel, I have a few screw-drivers in my bag. They are easily more than four inches. Have not had problems with these being taken or questioned... One time a year or two ago, I was at a shooting range... Unknown to me, I left a few bullets in my jacket pocket, which was run through the x-ray... Not a yap from TSA..
Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
I suppose most of the stuff I travel with is considered dangerous... I could remove the battery from my laptop and hit people with it... I could stab people with my pen. I could also strangle or tie-up people with my laptop charger...
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This NPR story is interesting, Guns, Tumors And The Limits Of The Human Eye:
In one experiment, Wolfe took 20 X-rayed images of luggage stuffed with guns and knives, and mixed those images into stacks of images of X-rayed luggage that didn't have guns and knives. "If you stick those 20 bags into a stack of 40 bags, so on average there's a gun and knife in 50 percent of the bags," Wolfe says, "people missed about 7 percent of the bags." But when he took the exact same 20 bags and stuck them in a stack of 2,000 bags so that the targets showed up only 2 percent of the time, people got significantly worse. "All of a sudden, people were missing about 30 percent of the bags," Wolfe says. Target prevalence powerfully influences visual search behavior. In most visual search experiments, targets appear on at least 50% of trials. However, when targets are rare (as in medical or airport screening), observers shift response criteria, leading to elevated miss error rates. This would give some scientific justification for the TIP program. So, TIP-wise and research-wise, packing "targets" in your bags might actually improve the odds of TSA catching its mythical <1-in-a-billion terrorist. Rather than feel bad when some TSO chides me for forgetting a bottle of water, I'll consider it my way to help "ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce". |
Lets hope we can keep this thread reasonably on target...
Last Month, I flew ROC-IAD-PHX. ROC TSA hassled me about an empty water bottle but missed the claw hammer in my backpack. |
Originally Posted by Mr. Gel-pack
(Post 13364900)
This NPR story is interesting, Guns, Tumors And The Limits Of The Human Eye:
Hat tip Schneier's "Limits of Visual inspection": This would give some scientific justification for the TIP program. So, TIP-wise and research-wise, packing "targets" in your bags might actually improve the odds of TSA catching its mythical <1-in-a-billion terrorist. Rather than feel bad when some TSO chides me for forgetting a bottle of water, I'll consider it my way to help "ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce". Hmmm... I wonder if that's what that big study at the end of the year was about... :confused: |
What is with this freedome bag crud?
should be called what it is " HIMMLER BAG" :mad::confused: |
My partner took a pocket knife with knife through TPA-LGW-EDI without anyone (or him!) noticing.
We were surprised to find it in his bag when we got home, thinking it had been checked. More surprising that it evaded both US and UK checkpoints! BTW - "freedom baggy" - is that the real name, or are you guys just taking the mick? |
Originally Posted by jghill
(Post 13374073)
My partner took a pocket knife with knife through TPA-LGW-EDI without anyone (or him!) noticing.
We were surprised to find it in his bag when we got home, thinking it had been checked. More surprising that it evaded both US and UK checkpoints! BTW - "freedom baggy" - is that the real name, or are you guys just taking the mick? |
Originally Posted by jghill
(Post 13374073)
My partner took a pocket knife with knife through TPA-LGW-EDI without anyone (or him!) noticing.
We were surprised to find it in his bag when we got home, thinking it had been checked. More surprising that it evaded both US and UK checkpoints! BTW - "freedom baggy" - is that the real name, or are you guys just taking the mick? |
Originally Posted by Mr. Gel-pack
(Post 13364900)
This NPR story is interesting, Guns, Tumors And The Limits Of The Human Eye:
Hat tip Schneier's "Limits of Visual inspection": This would give some scientific justification for the TIP program. So, TIP-wise and research-wise, packing "targets" in your bags might actually improve the odds of TSA catching its mythical <1-in-a-billion terrorist. Rather than feel bad when some TSO chides me for forgetting a bottle of water, I'll consider it my way to help "ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce". http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...22499686&ps=rs |
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