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Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 13207396)
and if that was the reason I saw a TSO on the plane, I'd thank him or her. When you compare those rare occurrences with the theater of a group of smurfs eyeballing passengers at the gate, the noble purpose you suggest seems to fade away quickly.
My point was to point out how everyone seemed to be jumping to conclusions, which I see as a fault. The OP asked a question, and instead of bringing up various reasons why it might have happened he/she was given a somewhat slanted point of view. Sorry, but that's not an honest way to argue. And by the way, other pax did not thank me for returning someones property: those times I have done so I usually hear comments made under the breath to get off the plane or such, which leads me to believe those comments were meant to be heard. But I have always been thanked by those who's property I have runited them with. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 13207490)
Why did you have to do that? :confused:
When I return an item that someone lost, I don't stare down the room or corridor like some Macho Man Wannabee... And I guess it depends on what "stare" means, right? Edit: macho man wannabe... Lol that's actually pretty funny ;) just to ease your mind, I can care less if someone thinks I'm "macho" or nit. I can care less if I think i'm "macho". Who really cares about that?? I never try to intimidate anyone about anything. Whether you believe it or not, eh.... |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 13207544)
Um, cause whenever everyone is sitting down in the plane I have to see their face so I can recognize them. I usually try to see their eyes, as for me that is the best way to identify them. If it intimidates people, that, of course, is not my intention, and to be honest Im not going to worry about it. At that point I want to make sure someone doesn't lose their watch, computer, etc.
And I guess it depends on what "stare" means, right? |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 13207544)
Um, cause whenever everyone is sitting down in the plane I have to see their face so I can recognize them. I usually try to see their eyes, as for me that is the best way to identify them. If it intimidates people, that, of course, is not my intention, and to be honest Im not going to worry about it. At that point I want to make sure someone doesn't lose their watch, computer, etc.
The OP described everyone getting The Stare. Unless the person who supposedly lost their property was the last person the TSA employee checked, then the situation is different from your lost property scenario. |
Shoot...if TSA is going to be on the plane before departure, why not make yourselves useful....like...help with the carryons...and pour some pre-departure beverages while you are at it!!! :D
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Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
(Post 13207581)
Why not just ask one of the FAs to make an announcement regarding a missing item?
To explain, I don't just hand the item over. I ask them to identify the item. Maybe my memory is bad and I identify the wrong person and give them someone elses item? Experience has taught me to do it this way. |
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 13207617)
So, you stop playing your version of The Stare when you find the person and return their property? If so, then great.
The OP described everyone getting The Stare. Unless the person who supposedly lost their property was the last person the TSA employee checked, then the situation is different from your lost property scenario. |
Originally Posted by LilTMD
(Post 13204165)
Quite frankly, I'm surprised they haven't already placed TSOs on planes for the duration of the flight (like FAMs) to keep passengers in line in-flight, and to enforce the one-hour no-potty rule. They'd have to be seated in first class, of course.
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Originally Posted by goingbananas
(Post 13207627)
Shoot...if TSA is going to be on the plane before departure, why not make yourselves useful....like...help with the carryons...and pour some pre-departure beverages while you are at it!!! :D
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Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 13207337)
Nice to know no one on this site jumps the gun and draws conclusions without knowingall the facts....
Several reasons I have gone onto a plane just before it departs: 1. People have asked to me to, as the person they dropped off left somethig important behind (last time I did this was because a woman asked me to bring to her husband some papers he had left in the car, and he didn't want to leave the plane because he was afraid it would take off without him). 2. Someone leaves something at the checkpoint, and I can visually identify the person, and know what gate area they went to, so I check multiple planes as they board to get the item returned. Yes, I have done this a handful of times, and as far as the people on some flights are concerned all they see is a TSO entering the plane, looking around and leaving. Complain if you want, but those are possible reasons as to why a TSO might board a plane as described. |
Originally Posted by PTravel
(Post 13207678)
And those are excellent reasons and, seriously, I think everyone appreciates that you've gone out of your way to do so. You do understand, though, the source of our skepticism about TSA.
Edit: and I appreciate your comment. And just so you know when I do go down to the gates to return someones property, I do so with the approval of the STSOs on duty. When I'm away from the checkpoint that is one less TSO to screen pax or their bags. Knowing this our supervisors still agree to let me, and other TSOs, go down to the gate to try to return peoples property. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 13207710)
Yep, I understand and agree with anyones skepticism regarding TSA. But as with any amount of skepticism, people have to be careful so as to not let it blind you.
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Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 13207742)
Unfortunately, between unnecessary gate harassment/presence and "behavior detection" employees, the numbers are overwhelmingly against the TSA employee's presence on the OP's plane being there for any positive reason.
My personal thoughts why the TSO was on the plane was to identify someone. Not for a breach; that would have been done differently. The question is why the TSO would want to identify someone, and I can only answer based on my own experiences. |
Originally Posted by SATTSO
(Post 13207478)
And when I have sought out pax to return property I had to give everyone the "stare". So what?
Originally Posted by Spiff
(Post 13207490)
Why did you have to do that? :confused:
When I return an item that someone lost, I don't stare down the room or corridor like some Macho Man Wannabee... |
Just to flesh out a bit more on the discussion that has developed so far. I was curious what the TSO was up to and I looked to see what she was doing. I didn't see her hand anything over to anybody, but in light of SATTSO's comments it could be possible that she was looking for somebody in the same situation mentioned.
I have no idea. I was just curious if this was a new policy of not and wanted some input from other flyers to see if they had seen the same actions or not. It would appear from our sampling so far that it's not a very common thing. BTW, SATTSO - thanks for going the extra mile to return people's property to them. I am not fond of the TSA :D, but it's always nice to hear that there are humans on the other side willing to make the extra effort for other people. ^ |
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