Those of you who don't mind nude scans -- where DO you draw the line?
Jan 2, 2010, 8:42 am
#31
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There is no device that would detect an explosive up someones backside. If you think the puffer would, think again.
But what amazes me is that it shocks many of you that others (not employees of TSA or the government) do no agree with your values and opinions. Why should everyone have the same values and opinions? Is it not possible for honest people to come to different conclusions about what is acceptable?
But what amazes me is that it shocks many of you that others (not employees of TSA or the government) do no agree with your values and opinions. Why should everyone have the same values and opinions? Is it not possible for honest people to come to different conclusions about what is acceptable?
Jan 2, 2010, 8:45 am
#32
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There is no device that would detect an explosive up someones backside. If you think the puffer would, think again.
But what amazes me is that it shocks many of you that others (not employees of TSA or the government) do no agree with your values and opinions. Why should everyone have the same values and opinions? Is it not possible for honest people to come to different conclusions about what is acceptable?
But what amazes me is that it shocks many of you that others (not employees of TSA or the government) do no agree with your values and opinions. Why should everyone have the same values and opinions? Is it not possible for honest people to come to different conclusions about what is acceptable?
What amazes me is the load of crap that the Government has sold the people. Face it most folks stick to their own little world and if they are told by the "experts", that have a vested interest, that the Nude-O-Scope can stop terrorist they will believe it.
Try to deny that the Nude-O-Scope can be beaten by a big breasted woman.
The Nude-O-Scope is WORTHLESS in preventing terrorists, costs $170k, is too invasive for common travelers, and did I mention it was worthless.
Jan 2, 2010, 8:45 am
#33
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What are all of you who are no opposed to full body scans going to say when a suicide bomber blows up a shopping center or two, after which you will have to go through WBI in order to go do your shopping? Will you draw the line there?
Jan 2, 2010, 8:58 am
#34
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What will DHS do then? What will the American people tolerate in the name of "security" when their favorite malls and sports arenas start blowing up?
~~ Irish
Jan 2, 2010, 9:04 am
#35
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Having passengers undergo a colonoscopy before every flight might actually save more lives than nude-o-scopes. Think of the benefits of early detection of bowel cancer ... @:-)
"Sir you're good to fly. I suggest you get those polyps removed, when you get to Houston."
"Sir you're good to fly. I suggest you get those polyps removed, when you get to Houston."
Jan 2, 2010, 9:09 am
#36
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No one would want to do the prep 24 hours before flight.
Jan 2, 2010, 9:09 am
#37
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Maybe they will work from the deadmalls.com list.
Jan 2, 2010, 9:17 am
#38
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If they did the results would be regional in scope. You drop a plane it effects the whole system nation wide.
Jan 2, 2010, 9:54 am
#39
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Exactly. I'm glad you cite the bell curve. There will be people on either extremes, and many people just left or right if a majority opinion. Which means there will be varying degrees of opinions by a majority of people, so it shouldn't shock anyone that others are willing to accept something they themselves would not.
Jan 2, 2010, 9:58 am
#40
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You ever have a dog shove his nose between the cheeks and take a wiff? I would bet the dog before I bet any technology.
What amazes me is the load of crap that the Government has sold the people. Face it most folks stick to their own little world and if they are told by the "experts", that have a vested interest, that the Nude-O-Scope can stop terrorist they will believe it.
Try to deny that the Nude-O-Scope can be beaten by a big breasted woman.
The Nude-O-Scope is WORTHLESS in preventing terrorists, costs $170k, is too invasive for common travelers, and did I mention it was worthless.
What amazes me is the load of crap that the Government has sold the people. Face it most folks stick to their own little world and if they are told by the "experts", that have a vested interest, that the Nude-O-Scope can stop terrorist they will believe it.
Try to deny that the Nude-O-Scope can be beaten by a big breasted woman.
The Nude-O-Scope is WORTHLESS in preventing terrorists, costs $170k, is too invasive for common travelers, and did I mention it was worthless.
People with large folds of skin/flesh that could not be scanned have to be pat-down on those areas.
Jan 2, 2010, 9:59 am
#41
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~~ Irish
Jan 2, 2010, 10:03 am
#42
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Irish, I've often wondered why we've not been attacked internally and have come to the conclusion that there are few, if any, home-grown terrorists (whatever their background) who are willing to die in a suicide bombing. Life in the USofA is too good to sacrifice oneself.
Would a terrorist be willing to come from Yemen to blow himself up at a mall here? Who knows - it certainly is not as glamorous as an airplane.
Jan 2, 2010, 11:06 am
#43
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Jan 2, 2010, 11:25 am
#44
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The "Butt Bomb" has been done, not well, but it has been done.
Jan 2, 2010, 11:28 am
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Too bad it will work like it did for the AMS-DTW flight with the "underwear bomber" and the MIA-CDG flight with the "shoe bomber": the profiling system worked as it was designed to fail and it failed to detect explosives. So much for TSA-approved profiling.
Don't want explosives smuggled on board planes? Here are the facts: strip search machines and strip searches do not detect explosives and neither does profiling of passengers regardless of the denial of boarding to an Irish woman being used as an unwitting mule. Bomb-sniffing dogs, ETDs, ETPs and the like do actually detect explosives.
