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C. Howitt Fealz Dec 28, 2009 11:34 pm

'Pyrotechnic device' found on domestic flight
 
New York (CNN) -- A man was questioned by the FBI after he was discovered to have taken a "pyrotechnic device" onto an airline flight from Baltimore, Maryland, to New York City, FBI spokesman Richard Kolko told CNN Monday.

The incident comes in a period of heightened alert on airlines, following what authorities describe as a failed plot to detonate an explosive device on an international flight into the United States on Christmas Day.

Authorities found that Thomas Ouellette, 67, of Bonita Springs, Florida, brought the pyrotechnic device onto the flight that landed at LaGuardia Airport Sunday night and interviewed him, Kolko said. The device was placed in evidence, and Ouellette was issued a federal summons to appear in federal court, Kolko said.

Robert Nardoza public affairs officer with the U.S. attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York, said Monday that no court date had been set for Ouellette, and that the office had no further comment on the case.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/12/28...ard/index.html

Yaatri Dec 28, 2009 11:38 pm


Originally Posted by C. Howitt Fealz (Post 13071789)
New York (CNN) -- A man was questioned by the FBI after he was discovered to have taken a "pyrotechnic device" onto an airline flight from Baltimore, Maryland, to New York City, FBI spokesman Richard Kolko told CNN Monday.

The incident comes in a period of heightened alert on airlines, following what authorities describe as a failed plot to detonate an explosive device on an international flight into the United States on Christmas Day.

Authorities found that Thomas Ouellette, 67, of Bonita Springs, Florida, brought the pyrotechnic device onto the flight that landed at LaGuardia Airport Sunday night and interviewed him, Kolko said. The device was placed in evidence, and Ouellette was issued a federal summons to appear in federal court, Kolko said.

Robert Nardoza public affairs officer with the U.S. attorney's office for the Eastern District of New York, said Monday that no court date had been set for Ouellette, and that the office had no further comment on the case.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/TRAVEL/12/28...ard/index.html

I was wondering when it was going to make it here. It's much more scary or interesting when a Nigerian (Muslim) guy locks himself up in the bathroom. ;)

DevilDog438 Dec 28, 2009 11:46 pm

Of course, there is no guarantee that it was planted by the alleged individual...he may just be the unlucky sap that sat there prior to anyone cleaning between the damn seat cushions.

Yaatri Dec 28, 2009 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 13071834)
Of course, there is no guarantee that it was planted by the alleged individual...he may just be the unlucky sap that sat there prior to anyone cleaning between the damn seat cushions.

Right. But i would be different if his name were Mohammed. ;)

alanR Dec 29, 2009 12:03 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 13071801)
I was wondering when it was going to make it here. It's much more scary or interesting when a Nigerian (Muslim) guy locks himself up in the bathroom. ;)

What if a Nigerian (Christian) guy locks himself up in the bathroom?

Yaatri Dec 29, 2009 12:17 am


Originally Posted by DevilDog438 (Post 13071834)
Of course, there is no guarantee that it was planted by the alleged individual...he may just be the unlucky sap that sat there prior to anyone cleaning between the damn seat cushions.

The man does admit that he carried the fire cracker on board. He claims he did not know that fire crackers could not be carried on board, which very well might be true. Your hypothesis was wrong.

Yaatri Dec 29, 2009 12:21 am


Originally Posted by alanR (Post 13071871)
What if a Nigerian (Christian) guy locks himself up in the bathroom?

I don;t understand the relevance of your question to what I have posted, but since you asked, my response is that when I hear about a Nigerian Christian guy who locks himself in a bathroom, we will both find out what happens.

N965VJ Dec 29, 2009 8:06 am

“Pyrotechnic device” is a big scary name for a firecracker, which is exactly what it was. Good job on cranking up the fear factor, CNN. :rolleyes:

If it was truly dangerous, the TSA screwed up again over a dozen times by letting this through the checkpoint.



"It was a stupid mistake and I take full responsibility," said the 67-year-old.

Ouellette says the firework had been in his bag for at least five years and he had forgotten all about it. He believes it must have slipped out when a flight attendant handed him his suitcase.

Ouellette says he unknowingly brought the firecracker with him aboard more than a dozen flights and it has flown around the world with him. Nobody has ever stopped him for the firework.

jkhuggins Dec 29, 2009 8:21 am

Quick ... someone tell me how WBI would've stopped this guy from bringing an explosive onto an aircraft? :rolleyes:

exerda Dec 29, 2009 8:28 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 13071801)
I was wondering when it was going to make it here. It's much more scary or interesting when a Nigerian (Muslim) guy locks himself up in the bathroom. ;)

CNN was running it in their headlines ticker all afternoon yesterday... strangely enough, they didn't interrupt any of their endless banter (and kettle interviews) to focus on it, despite the headline ticker saying, "Stay with CNN for updates..."

That alone made me figure it was a non-event. I mean, they were going gaga over the kid who cut his head with the President--sensationalizing the whole thing left and right ("Ambulances dispatched to the PRESIDENTIAL rental home!!!!!!!")--and this didn't even manage a peep at the time from the on-air bloviators.



Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 13073092)
“Pyrotechnic device” is a big scary name for a firecracker, which is exactly what it was.

That's pretty much what I figured. By calling it a "device," CNN makes it out to be a bomb or IED...

redpalmetto Dec 29, 2009 8:37 am

profiling
 
yes Yaatri, but its not non-Muslims trying to blow up aeroplanes!

goalie Dec 29, 2009 8:52 am

so let me get this straight.....


....Authorities found that Thomas Ouellette, 67, of Bonita Springs, Florida, brought the pyrotechnic device onto the flight that landed at LaGuardia Airport Sunday.......Ouellette says he unknowingly brought the firecracker with him aboard more than a dozen flights and it has flown around the world with him. Nobody has ever stopped him for the firework.
so with that, who feels safer now? :rolleyes:

N965VJ Dec 29, 2009 8:55 am


Originally Posted by redpalmetto (Post 13073271)
yes Yaatri, but its not non-Muslims trying to blow up aeroplanes!

Just Federal office buildings in OKC. :rolleyes:

exerda Dec 29, 2009 8:55 am


Originally Posted by redpalmetto (Post 13073271)
yes Yaatri, but its not non-Muslims trying to blow up aeroplanes!

Question is, how do you profile "Muslim?" Plenty of gents (and ladies) fit the bill of "radical Islamist" without fitting the physical description that is the stereotype of so many Americans' minds.

John Walker Lind, for example... maybe that guy wouldn't be blowing himself up; I dunno. But as "the American Taliban," he wouldn't exactly have been caught by the sort of profiling so many people are calling for. Nor would the Chechnyan women who blew themselves up in that Russian terror attack a few years ago.

DevilDog438 Dec 29, 2009 8:57 am


Originally Posted by Yaatri (Post 13071895)
The man does admit that he carried the fire cracker on board. He claims he did not know that fire crackers could not be carried on board, which very well might be true. Your hypothesis was wrong.

No worries, that is the thing with hypotheses, some of them will be wrong. At the time of my post, that information from the individual was not available in any story that I had been able to find.


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