SOP discussion
Dec 6, 2009, 3:11 pm
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According to these photos the TSOs working at Austin-Bergstrom International Airport (AUS) are not only above the law but above SOP too.
IIRC, the roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms was completed in 2008 by September 11th (
in itself). And the mandate with those uniforms is that screeners bypass the "security" because of the metal on those badges. The "logic" is rooted in the TSA not wanting the individual screeners losing their badges, even by just putting them in the x-ray machine.
There was a a tiff in Denver about the very same thing last year.
Dec 6, 2009, 3:13 pm
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First of all, this is TSA; they'll make up a rule if need be. Within the CFR, I see a few ways they might be able to claim it:
-- 1520.7(l) covers anyone who's ever applied to Clear.
-- a perverse reading of 1520.7(j) could potentially be construed to cover this
-- anyone who's ever worked for an airline (1520.7(k) or owned an aircraft required to have a security plan (1520.7(c))
Regardless, there is a risk here, at minimum, of there being problems. And I think it's only fair to make sure people are aware of that.
-- 1520.7(l) covers anyone who's ever applied to Clear.
-- a perverse reading of 1520.7(j) could potentially be construed to cover this
-- anyone who's ever worked for an airline (1520.7(k) or owned an aircraft required to have a security plan (1520.7(c))
Regardless, there is a risk here, at minimum, of there being problems. And I think it's only fair to make sure people are aware of that.
Dec 6, 2009, 3:14 pm
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Dec 6, 2009, 3:15 pm
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That SOP link might have some dated information. I think that SOP info pre-dates the full roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms.
IIRC, the roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms was completed in 2008 by September 11th ( in itself). And the mandate with those uniforms is that screeners bypass the "security" because of the metal on those badges.
The "logic" is rooted in the TSA not wanting the individual screeners losing their badges, even by just putting them in the x-ray machine.
There was a a tiff in Denver about the very same thing last year.
IIRC, the roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms was completed in 2008 by September 11th (
in itself). And the mandate with those uniforms is that screeners bypass the "security" because of the metal on those badges. The "logic" is rooted in the TSA not wanting the individual screeners losing their badges, even by just putting them in the x-ray machine.
There was a a tiff in Denver about the very same thing last year.
Dec 6, 2009, 3:15 pm
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The SSI warnings may have been "deleted," but otherwise it appears to be the same as the other document. And once again, on the one with the SSI warnings deleted, you can find the SSI hidden behind the black boxes. Someone has violated 49 CFR Part 1520 within the Gov't.
Thanks for finding this.
Thanks for finding this.
It was deleted and re-entered in Amendment 3 on March 16, 2009
Notice it is openly posted on the FBO website as a Airport Screening Contract Solicitation in Montana.
Number: HSTS05-09-R-SPP061 was awarded on Sept 02 ,2009
Dec 6, 2009, 3:17 pm
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And just in case anyone missed it SATTSO was JOKING.
Dec 6, 2009, 3:19 pm
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Dec 6, 2009, 3:21 pm
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The baby will be 5 months old, so anything he can bite or throw up on. The big boy is almost 13 but is still really into Power Rangers, video games, Legos and Bionicles. The girl is 12 and I have no clue what girls like.
And just in case anyone missed it SATTSO was JOKING.
And just in case anyone missed it SATTSO was JOKING.
And really, does ANYONE know what any woman wants???
Dec 6, 2009, 3:21 pm
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Dec 6, 2009, 3:24 pm
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That SOP link might have some dated information. I think that SOP info pre-dates the full roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms.
IIRC, the roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms was completed in 2008 by September 11th ( in itself). And the mandate with those uniforms is that screeners bypass the "security" because of the metal on those badges.
The "logic" is rooted in the TSA not wanting the individual screeners losing their badges, even by just putting them in the x-ray machine.
There was a a tiff in Denver about the very same thing last year.
IIRC, the roll-out of the police-imitation uniforms was completed in 2008 by September 11th (
in itself). And the mandate with those uniforms is that screeners bypass the "security" because of the metal on those badges. The "logic" is rooted in the TSA not wanting the individual screeners losing their badges, even by just putting them in the x-ray machine.
There was a a tiff in Denver about the very same thing last year.
Who can find the SOP regarding frozen LGAs in there????
Dec 6, 2009, 3:24 pm
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Come on she said we need a vacuum 3 weeks before Christmas, what was I supposed to think? I think I was set up.
Dec 6, 2009, 3:24 pm
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To be honest, I did see one in Denver getting a secondary about four or five months ago. Badge off, getting the wand. The one thing I found unusual about it was that it was not done anywhere near where the screeners usually bypass the checkpoints, it was done where the passengers funnel from exiting the checkpoints to taking the escalator.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.
Before that, yes, it's been a very long time.