Spirit flights canceled at FLL; officials deny pilot strike
May 7, 2017, 7:06 pm
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Spirit flights canceled at FLL; officials deny pilot strike
May 9, 2017, 9:56 am
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/09/us/spi...ons/index.html
The front ticket counter at the Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport turned into chaos, and Broward County deputies stepped in to try restore the peace between passengers and airline employees.
Travelers stormed off an airplane after their flight was canceled and swarmed the ticket counter, where dozens of passengers were already waiting in line, passengers told CNN.
"Everyone was already aggravated about flight delays and the ridiculousness of standing in such a long line for hours, which Spirit Airlines did nothing to help, and then in walks these people off their flight raising a ruckus (and) cussing and screaming and they went straight to the counter," passenger Cindy Matthews Beard told CNN.
Video footage shows deputies struggling with travelers. Some were pulled aside from the crowd, while others were taken to the ground and placed in handcuffs. Three passengers were taken into custody, according to Broward County Sheriff's Office.
Travelers stormed off an airplane after their flight was canceled and swarmed the ticket counter, where dozens of passengers were already waiting in line, passengers told CNN.
"Everyone was already aggravated about flight delays and the ridiculousness of standing in such a long line for hours, which Spirit Airlines did nothing to help, and then in walks these people off their flight raising a ruckus (and) cussing and screaming and they went straight to the counter," passenger Cindy Matthews Beard told CNN.
Video footage shows deputies struggling with travelers. Some were pulled aside from the crowd, while others were taken to the ground and placed in handcuffs. Three passengers were taken into custody, according to Broward County Sheriff's Office.
May 9, 2017, 10:16 am
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I have heard that even though they don't interline seems like they are getting some passengers on other airlines at least what I am reading on fb from someone traveling from DTW to LAS they were put on WN last night
May 9, 2017, 11:25 am
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My last flight out of FLL a few months back was suppose to leave at 7AM. Everything showed on time then an hour before departure all of a sudden flight would be 3 hours late in departing. Agent had no idea why. Then it was determined they were missing a flight attendant do to call off. At FLL a crew base you don't have reserve crews in a situation like this. If it was at a smaller out station maybe understandable.
May 9, 2017, 11:43 am
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Let's support the pilots, if they are, indeed, taking unofficial (wildcat) action.
The Spirit lawsuit against the union (which is trying to reign in their workers... boo) states, among other things, that pilots should stop writing up maintenance issues, stop any "work to rule" campaign (meaning following all the rules, safety policies, etc, despite that it can take extra time), and that they cannot not volunteer for extra flight time.
That's right. Spirit says the union should be sanctioned when some pilot somewhere doesn't volunteer. Doesn't sound all the voluntary, does it?
There are plenty of issues with the business unions and how they're run, so when workers take action on their own (despite the hand-wringing of the union leadership), they ought to be supported.
The Spirit lawsuit against the union (which is trying to reign in their workers... boo) states, among other things, that pilots should stop writing up maintenance issues, stop any "work to rule" campaign (meaning following all the rules, safety policies, etc, despite that it can take extra time), and that they cannot not volunteer for extra flight time.
That's right. Spirit says the union should be sanctioned when some pilot somewhere doesn't volunteer. Doesn't sound all the voluntary, does it?
There are plenty of issues with the business unions and how they're run, so when workers take action on their own (despite the hand-wringing of the union leadership), they ought to be supported.
May 9, 2017, 12:09 pm
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Let's support the pilots, if they are, indeed, taking unofficial (wildcat) action.
The Spirit lawsuit against the union (which is trying to reign in their workers... boo) states, among other things, that pilots should stop writing up maintenance issues, stop any "work to rule" campaign (meaning following all the rules, safety policies, etc, despite that it can take extra time), and that they cannot not volunteer for extra flight time.
That's right. Spirit says the union should be sanctioned when some pilot somewhere doesn't volunteer. Doesn't sound all the voluntary, does it?
There are plenty of issues with the business unions and how they're run, so when workers take action on their own (despite the hand-wringing of the union leadership), they ought to be supported.
The Spirit lawsuit against the union (which is trying to reign in their workers... boo) states, among other things, that pilots should stop writing up maintenance issues, stop any "work to rule" campaign (meaning following all the rules, safety policies, etc, despite that it can take extra time), and that they cannot not volunteer for extra flight time.
That's right. Spirit says the union should be sanctioned when some pilot somewhere doesn't volunteer. Doesn't sound all the voluntary, does it?
There are plenty of issues with the business unions and how they're run, so when workers take action on their own (despite the hand-wringing of the union leadership), they ought to be supported.
The airline may have issues but a wildcat strike by the pilots is unacceptable.
The customers of Spirit should be the first consideration. I'd fire any pilot or other employee who engages in an illegal strike.
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May 9, 2017, 12:26 pm
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NO, no support for pilots engage in an illegal stop work action!
The airline may have issues but a wildcat strike by the pilots is unacceptable.
The customers of Spirit should be the first consideration. I'd fire any pilot or other employee who engages in an illegal strike.
The airline may have issues but a wildcat strike by the pilots is unacceptable.
The customers of Spirit should be the first consideration. I'd fire any pilot or other employee who engages in an illegal strike.
May 9, 2017, 1:16 pm
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Let's support the pilots, if they are, indeed, taking unofficial (wildcat) action.
May 9, 2017, 1:32 pm
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Federal court grants Spirit Airlines temporary restraining ordeR
May 9, 2017, 2:30 pm
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As Gordon Bethune once told me, "you can make a pizza so cheap than no one will buy it, and no one will eat it."
Spirit is so completely driven by the bottom line that they apparently don't have enough full time employees to run the airline without having staff volunteer for overtime. And, when pilots don't volunteer, they don't have enough pilots to operate their schedule. Not even close.
It's part of their culture, and it's coming back to bite them in the behind.
I feel sorry for the passengers. Except when I don't. Sorry that you are terribly inconvenienced and especially those whose lives are being messed up. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Spirit are bottom feeders, putting negative pressure on the industry. Those who fly with them enable this business model.
Spirit is so completely driven by the bottom line that they apparently don't have enough full time employees to run the airline without having staff volunteer for overtime. And, when pilots don't volunteer, they don't have enough pilots to operate their schedule. Not even close.
It's part of their culture, and it's coming back to bite them in the behind.
I feel sorry for the passengers. Except when I don't. Sorry that you are terribly inconvenienced and especially those whose lives are being messed up. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Spirit are bottom feeders, putting negative pressure on the industry. Those who fly with them enable this business model.
May 9, 2017, 3:32 pm
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As Gordon Bethune once told me, "you can make a pizza so cheap than no one will buy it, and no one will eat it."
Spirit is so completely driven by the bottom line that they apparently don't have enough full time employees to run the airline without having staff volunteer for overtime. And, when pilots don't volunteer, they don't have enough pilots to operate their schedule. Not even close.
It's part of their culture, and it's coming back to bite them in the behind.
I feel sorry for the passengers. Except when I don't. Sorry that you are terribly inconvenienced and especially those whose lives are being messed up. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Spirit are bottom feeders, putting negative pressure on the industry. Those who fly with them enable this business model.
Spirit is so completely driven by the bottom line that they apparently don't have enough full time employees to run the airline without having staff volunteer for overtime. And, when pilots don't volunteer, they don't have enough pilots to operate their schedule. Not even close.
It's part of their culture, and it's coming back to bite them in the behind.
I feel sorry for the passengers. Except when I don't. Sorry that you are terribly inconvenienced and especially those whose lives are being messed up. But, as the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Spirit are bottom feeders, putting negative pressure on the industry. Those who fly with them enable this business model.
Or as I like to say, Spirit is the "People of Wal-Mart" of the airline industry.
Bet those walk-up fares weren't cheap either.