Huge expansion of East African airline business
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That aside, the issue is with intra-African traffic. How do you fly Skyteam within Africa then? That is really the cash cow for KQ if I am not mistaken.
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Too many people are already tired of missed connections in NBO and would rather fly ET. Including myself.
How do you fly Skyteam within Africa then? That is really the cash cow for KQ if I am not mistaken.
With ET next door member of *A and RAM soon to join Comair as a OW airline, there is a plausible argument that it is important for ST to keep an African airline. But it is nonetheless difficult for outsiders to evaluate how much the presence of KQ contributes to directing traffic towards other ST airlines.
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There's the small matter of slots.
AMS is at the maximum 500,000 per annum slot limit, and the goverment mediator who proposed a small increase to 510,000 has just thrown in the towel, as there wasn't a chance in hell that the parties at the table would reach an agreement.
Unused AMS slots are as rare as hen's teeth.
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AMS is at the maximum 500,000 per annum slot limit, and the goverment mediator who proposed a small increase to 510,000 has just thrown in the towel, as there wasn't a chance in hell that the parties at the table would reach an agreement.
Unused AMS slots are as rare as hen's teeth.
Johan
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He will eventually sell them before stepping down or being ousted!
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Kenya Airways to leave Skyteam?
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...687f-162879449
Interesting read.
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Yeah I guess if they leave ST but keep the same relationship with AF/KL as a JV that makes sense too.
Is it a coincidence that KQ just announced they are going back to FCO this summer after a 7 year absence?
Is it a coincidence that KQ just announced they are going back to FCO this summer after a 7 year absence?
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I think KQ has a major three-way internal conflict ongoing between the shareholder (it is effectively majority owned by Government now following the conversion of debt to equity last year), the board, and the management team (more specifically the CEO and his loyalists). That is hampering their ability to develop, and deliver on, a coherent strategy.
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I'm the exact opposite. I actively seek to avoid Nairobi in favour of Addis. The passenger experience (especially if you are *G or in Cloud Nine) on Ethiopian is significantly better than on Kenya Airways, both on ground and in the air. And ET blows KQ out of the water in terms of reliability. I can't even remember the last time I had a KQ trip that wasn't affected by a delay, cancellation or other hiccup.
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Management issues aside, we all have our experiences.
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Actually, I dropped KQ because of numerous poor experiences on the EBB route in particular. They would invariably cancel one or the other of the morning flights at short notice, which meant missed connections out of EBB and later arrivals into EBB. We moved a fairly large volume of EBB-JNB/DXB traffic away from KQ to WB/ET because of this unreliability over the last couple years.
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In ADD, they sent me to the *A G lounge. It had all the charm, elegance and overcrowding of a bus station and deeply uninspiring food and drink (I ended up just having some water), to the point that I wondered whether iI would have made that much difference in terms of comfort and amenities to just stay outside. Fair enough if the Cloud 9 lounge is on a different planet in terms of comfort and quality of catering.
And ET blows KQ out of the water in terms of reliability. I can't even remember the last time I had a KQ trip that wasn't affected by a delay, cancellation or other hiccup.