Old Aug 11, 2017, 11:04 am
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Ethiopian Long-Haul Aircraft with Flat Bed Seats
(UPDATED 05NOV23)

TOTAL : 59 aircraft - 49 with fully flat beds, 10 with 160-angled flat

At least 50+ aircraft with WiFi. WiFi has now been installed on almost all 787s in addition to the 777/350 fleet.

Boeing 777-200LRs
(Total 6 - with WiFi)

ET-ANN - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ANO - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ANP - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ANQ - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ANR - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-AQL - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite

Boeing 777-300ERs
(Total 4 - with WiFi)

ET-APX - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-APY - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ASK - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite
ET-ASL - Yes - Zodiac Aura Lite

Boeing 787-8s
(Total 19 - most - if not all - now fitted with WiFi)

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ET-AOO - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOP - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOQ - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOR - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOS - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOT - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOU - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-AOV - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-ARE - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-ARF - No - Zodiac Aura Lite (angled)
ET-ASG - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ASH - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ASI - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATG - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATH - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATI - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATJ - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATK - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATL - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel

NOTE : All B787-8 flights are loaded with the flat bed seatmap until between 48-72 hours prior to the flight. Check back within 48 hours when the actual aircraft is allocated and the seatmap may change. If row 11 shows seats ABC-DEF-JKL, then you have the old configuration. If it shows only seats JKL for row 11, then it is the new configuration.

Boeing 787-9s
(Total 10 - all equipped with WiFi)

ET-AUO - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUP - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUQ - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUR - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AXK - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AXL - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AXS - Yes - Collins Aerospace Super Diamond (Reverse Herringbone)
ET-AYC - Yes - Collins Aerospace Super Diamond (Reverse Herringbone)
ET-AYD - Yes - Collins Aerospace Super Diamond (Reverse Herringbone)
ET-AXT - Yes - Collins Aerospace Super Diamond (Reverse Herringbone)

Airbus 350-900s
(Total 20 - all equipped with Wifi)

ET-ATQ - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATR - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-ATY - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUA - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUB - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AUC - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AVB - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AVC - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AVD - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AVE - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AWM - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AWN - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AWO - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AWP - Yes - Collins Aerospace Diamond Parallel
ET-AYA - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)
ET-AYB - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)
ET-AYM - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)
ET-AYN - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)
ET-AZI - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)
ET-AZN - Yes - Safran Optima (New config)








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Ethiopian Best Business Class Seats?

Old Apr 30, 2021, 10:26 am
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
You'll also have to overnight in Addis (STPC) if you use the routing via Ghana. If time is no concern and you enjoy the flying part of the journey, the routing via ACC will probably be less stressful - I have found that the overnight at the Skylight Hotel in Addis on ET's dime to be quite refreshing and I feel a lot less fatigued/jetlagged when I eventually reach my destination. And the A350 product is much better than the 787, if only for the WiFi.
That's an interesting perspective! I can't say I've ever thought of flying in a restful/refreshing way, but that makes a lot of sense with an extra free hotel night on Africa time and airline dime. You clearly have a ton of knowledge with all this stuff. I budgeted 3 days to get there as I thought I was going to take a similarly long route through DEL, but can't get that for miles. So I have the time for the extended routing. How does that hotel night work? [edit: just watched a YT vid on it and it looks pretty simple]

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Old Apr 30, 2021, 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Snareman
A350s AYA and AYB were delivered with the herringbone seats (as were the 787-9s AXS and AYC) - all the details are in the wiki at the top of this thread.
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Old Apr 30, 2021, 4:11 pm
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
A350s AYA and AYB were delivered with the herringbone seats (as were the 787-9s AXS and AYC) - all the details are in the wiki at the top of this thread.
ah. Cool. Thanks. I hadn't seen that yet. I'll have a look
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Old May 10, 2021, 8:25 am
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Well folks I finally pulled the trigger on 4x award seats to Africa from CLT for March 22. Can you please help advise on a few things related to ET seats and connections? For context we are flying on the same day in business class (one parent and one kid each) 2x CLT - YYZ - ADD - VFA [ADD-VFA in economy] and 2x CLT - IAD - ADD - VFA to get the 4 of us to VFA since ET only releases 2x business class seats per flight. My wife and I will be traveling with our 4 and 7 year olds.
  • A) For the 2x YYZ - ADD on Cloud Nine on A359 seatmap shows 2-2-2. What seats should we book to get best chance at 2 seats together in case we get the 1-2-1 seat configuration? Does it ever fly this route?
  • B) For the 2x IAD - ADD on Cloud Nine on 787 seatmap shows 2-2-2. What seats should we book to get best chance at 2 seats together in case we get the 1-2-1 seat configuration? Does it ever fly this route?
  • C) What lounge does ET get access to in YYZ?
  • D) What lounge does ET get access to in IAD?
  • E) We each have a 90 minute layover in ADD on the way to VFA. Probably not enough time to visit a lounge. If we get in early can we be admitted as the entire party of 4 despite 2 of us flying ADD - VFA in economy?
  • F) Has anyone ever seen ET open 2 more award seats or 4 award seats on one of their flights? I have expertflyer alerts up just in case
  • G) Does ET allow for entry of a known traveller number to help ensure TSA pre-check in case that is needed?
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Old May 10, 2021, 12:17 pm
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Thoughts on some of your questions:

A) I'm partial to row 4 D/G (middle pair) on the A359... that way each gets an aisle. But I believe the odds of getting the 1-2-1 config are pretty low... so you could take A/C (window/aisle) and be fine. They usually load the actual operating aircraft seatmap about 48 hours ahead of time. Either way, you can check the evening before your flight what aircraft will actually be operating (since it travels to YYZ the night before). They've also been swapping for 788/789 recently too according to FlightRadar.
B) Similar to above... note they also frequently put a 777 on this route (2-3-2)... so best to go for a window/aisle if travelling in a pair...
ET swaps aircraft around fairly freely (sometimes even day of), so until you see what's coming to you, you can't always be sure.
C) Maple Leaf lounge (Air Canada)
D) Drawing a blank - but I think its either the Lufthansa or Turkish lounge.
E) Probably not since you will be in Economy via ADD**** (sorry, misread this) and they will look at your onward ticket - Unless you have *G status then yes, you should be able to access the lounge. I haven't been through recently, but I know it was mentioned about restrictions for guests coming into lounges (due to CoVID/capacity/etc). ***So I think one of the adults would need *G to consider it. Under normal circumstances, 90 Minutes normally would make for plenty of time for a lounge visit in ADD.

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Old May 11, 2021, 7:58 am
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Originally Posted by b_magee
Thoughts on some of your questions:

A) I'm partial to row 4 D/G (middle pair) on the A359... that way each gets an aisle. But I believe the odds of getting the 1-2-1 config are pretty low... so you could take A/C (window/aisle) and be fine. They usually load the actual operating aircraft seatmap about 48 hours ahead of time. Either way, you can check the evening before your flight what aircraft will actually be operating (since it travels to YYZ the night before). They've also been swapping for 788/789 recently too according to FlightRadar.
B) Similar to above... note they also frequently put a 777 on this route (2-3-2)... so best to go for a window/aisle if travelling in a pair...
ET swaps aircraft around fairly freely (sometimes even day of), so until you see what's coming to you, you can't always be sure.
C) Maple Leaf lounge (Air Canada)
D) Drawing a blank - but I think its either the Lufthansa or Turkish lounge.
E) Probably not since you will be in Economy via ADD**** (sorry, misread this) and they will look at your onward ticket - Unless you have *G status then yes, you should be able to access the lounge. I haven't been through recently, but I know it was mentioned about restrictions for guests coming into lounges (due to CoVID/capacity/etc). ***So I think one of the adults would need *G to consider it. Under normal circumstances, 90 Minutes normally would make for plenty of time for a lounge visit in ADD.
Thank you! Very helpful to receive your insights. I found on the ET website that we would indeed have Cloud 9 lounge access in ADD as our inbound arrival with Cloud 9 ticket from YYZ - ADD would be enough for entry.
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Old May 11, 2021, 8:12 am
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Originally Posted by beofotch
Thank you! Very helpful to receive your insights. I found on the ET website that we would indeed have Cloud 9 lounge access in ADD as our inbound arrival with Cloud 9 ticket from YYZ - ADD would be enough for entry.
Sorry, but that is not accurate. ET specifically addresses this scenario at https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...at-addis-ababa

Transit passengers whose connecting outbound flight from Addis Ababa is in economy class are not eligible for lounge access, despite the fact that they arrived Addis Ababa with business class ticket.
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Old May 11, 2021, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
Sorry, but that is not accurate. ET specifically addresses this scenario at https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...at-addis-ababa
LOL. You are exactly right. I read that exact sentence yesterday and somehow walked away ignoring the word NOT and wrongly interpreted it as there would be access. Thank you for setting me straight. :-)
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Old May 11, 2021, 9:45 am
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LOL. You are exactly right. I read that exact sentence yesterday and somehow walked away ignoring the word NOT and wrongly interpreted it as there would be access. Thank you for setting me straight. :-)
If the fare basis on your ticket is Business Class though, even if booked in Economy, it may be worth having a word with the lounge entrance staff. They may be able to assist (and possibly even get you into Business Class if there are seats available).
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Old May 11, 2021, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
If the fare basis on your ticket is Business Class though, even if booked in Economy, it may be worth having a word with the lounge entrance staff. They may be able to assist (and possibly even get you into Business Class if there are seats available).
Thank you - excellent point and certainly worth it to ask.
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Old May 23, 2021, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
There are no "retrofitted" 787s - neither -8s or -9s - nor A350s. All aircraft are still operating with the seats that they were delivered with. Of the -8s, it is just that the AS*/AT* aircraft were delivered with a different seat type. The AT* aircraft have RR engines instead of GE ones, so they do not normally operate transatlantic flights.
May I ask the reason for RR usually not operating transatlantic flights? I'm obviously out of the loop but I thought the blade problems were solved years ago. I'm curious now. And thanks in advance.
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Old May 23, 2021, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Basanez
May I ask the reason for RR usually not operating transatlantic flights? I'm obviously out of the loop but I thought the blade problems were solved years ago. I'm curious now. And thanks in advance.
The RR variants with ET have lower payload capacity than the GENx aircraft.

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Old May 29, 2021, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by B747-437B
The RR variants with ET have lower payload capacity than the GENx aircraft.
I noticed the last few flights ADD-JFK have been swapped to the 787-9. Is this due to increased capacity/more seats?
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Old May 29, 2021, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by Basanez
I noticed the last few flights ADD-JFK have been swapped to the 787-9. Is this due to increased capacity/more seats?
Possibly. Swaps are more of the rule than the exception.
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Old Jun 19, 2021, 3:00 pm
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We flew one of the 789s today ADD-ORD (ET-AXK). I saw that the seats in the first row have full sized footwells. Has anyone flown in the first row on the 789 and can comment about any issues with light and noise coming out of the galley?
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