EgyptAir MS 804 on 5/19/16, Paris to Cairo, Missing

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An EgyptAir Airbus A320, registration SU-GCC from Paris Charles de Gaulle (flight MS804 departing 18 May) to Cairo with 56 passengers, 2 flight crew, 5 cabin crew and 3 security personnel, lost contact over the Mediterranan Sea about 280km (151nm) from the Coast of Egypt at 02:30 local time (00:30 UTC) on 19 May 2016. Greece's Civil Aviation Authority reported radar contact with the aircraft was lost about 2 minutes after the aircraft was handed off from Greek to Egyptian Air Traffic Control.

At 12:30 CEST (10:30 UTC) 19 May 2016 France's President Hollande announced that the aircraft has crashed while flying over the Mediterranean Sea in Egyptian Airspace.

At 19:00 local time (17:00 UTC) 19 May 2016 EgyptAir posted on their Facebook page that wreckage of the missing aircraft was found near Karpathos Island. This was later denied by the head of the Greek air safety authority. EgyptAir's VP subsequently retracted the statement that debris of the aircraft had been found and said they were mistaken.

On the morning of 20 May 2016 The Egyptian Armed Forces informed EgyptAir that they have found first debris from the missing aircraft operating flight MS804 around 295 KM from the Egyptian coastline.
On 20 May 2016 The Aviation Herald published ACARS (Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System) messages which suggested there was smoke in a lavatory followed by smoke in the avionics bay.

On 22 May 2016 Egypt's President confirmed that the Petroleum Ministry has provided a submarine that could reach 3,000 meters under water in an attempt to retrieve the two black boxes.

On 23 May 2016 the French BEA and Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority, in response to media reports of an emergency call on Egypt's frequency, stated that no such communication has been received on any frequency.

On 1st Jun 2016 Egypt's Civil Aviation Authority reported that the French vessel "Laplace" has located pings presumed to originate from one of two black boxes. The French BEA confirmed that Egyptian Authorities have confirmed a "signal that may come from one of the recorders" of flight MS-804.

On 16 Jun 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to retrieve the cockpit voice recorder in several stages as the CVR had been damaged.

On 17 June 2016 the vessel "John Lethbridge" managed to recover the memory module of the second black box, the flight data recorder.


List of nationalities of passengers on Board:

30 Egyptian
15 French
2 Iraqi
1 British (dual nationality with Australia as confirmed by AU government)
1 Belgian
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadian
1 Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 Canadian

+ 10 crew of unknown nationality.

Useful, reliable links:
Aviation Herald (Avherald) article on MS804
BBC article on MS804


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Old May 18, 16, 11:15 pm
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Egypt or Greece will lead the investigation, with heavy involvement from the French (B.E.A. as the plane departed from France), plus Airbus and whoever manufactured the engines.

"Planes just don't fall out of the sky [in the middle of flight]".

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Old May 18, 16, 11:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Willbur View Post
Sorry, trip to Egypt, not Europe. Typo. A bit worried in general for Egypt trip in a month.
Having been in Cairo not that long ago -- you have more to worry over an unlicensed black taxi than an inflight problem.
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Live updates on BBC
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-africa-36328976

EgyptAir has set up helpline numbers for passengers' relatives. Anyone concerned can call 0800 7777 0000 from any landline in Egypt and +202 259 89320 from any mobile phone or from outside Egypt.
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Old May 18, 16, 11:39 pm
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EgyptAir Flight MS804 from Paris to Cairo 'disappears from radar'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-36309492


I think the kid BBC use as an 'Aviation Expert' may need to look back over the history of the A320 from before he was born before coming out with his quote. In any case worrying news. My thoughts with all those affected
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Old May 18, 16, 11:44 pm
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Nationalities involved according to EgyptAir are:

15 French
30 Egyptian
1 British
1 Belgian
2 Iraqi
1 Kuwaiti
1 Saudi
1 Sudanese
1 Chadian
1 Portuguese
1 Algerian
1 Canadian
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Old May 18, 16, 11:46 pm
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Were the crew and security officials all of Egyptian nationality? I assume that EgyptAir hires foreign pilots, maybe some foreign FAs too.
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Old May 18, 16, 11:49 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Were the crew and security officials all of Egyptian nationality? I assume that EgyptAir hires foreign pilots, maybe some foreign FAs too.
As I understand it they are all nationals or Egypt, or at least the vast majority are. Several have been made redundant over the years or lef for better Ts and Cs and ended up at other ME carriers.
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Just waking up to this news, leading across all the news channels here in the UK. Thinking about the families and friends of all those involved and still desperately hoping for a miracle.
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Sky news now reporting Egyptian Civil Aviation Ministry as saying that a distress signal was sent from the aircraft and received by an Egyptian military unit at 0226Z.

Note: signal, not mayday call.

EDIT by crazy8534: The timing would put the signal significantly after the time the aircraft was supposed to land (0115Z), and indeed the receipt of any signal has since been denied by the Egyptian authorities since I originally posted.

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Egyptair twitter feed now saying the same thing.
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Old May 19, 16, 12:43 am
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Very sad news...

I picked this information during lunch time 3 hours ago, and still no proper information... I guess by now they have run out of fuel and as they were not over the Atlantic or Pacific we are not going to think they are still flying somewhere were they cannot be tracked by radars...

Based on the last position registered of the plane (very close to the coast and near the final destination) the probabilities are not the best ones to find this plane somewhere in a alternate airport.
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Old May 19, 16, 12:56 am
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EgyptAir's stance seems very defensive - they're jumping on twitter and news channels to tell us how many flying hours the pilots have etc. Almost seems a bit insensitive, I'd rather they wait til we know what happened then issue the appropriate statements about their crew etc.

Horrible horrible news though.
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Old May 19, 16, 1:22 am
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Thoughts are with the family and friends of loved ones during this trying time.

Several media outlets [and also AV Herald] are showing that an emergency signal was sent out at 04:26 MESZ.

At 08:25L (06:25Z) Egypt Air reported that search and rescue have picked up an emergency locator transmitter (ELT) signal. Dawn in the area was at 04:26L.
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Old May 19, 16, 1:28 am
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The people of Egypt have really been suffering of late and now this. I hate hearing headlines like this.
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Egypt military denies distress signal received

In the past hour, EgyptAir said on its Twitter account that a distress signal had been received by Egypt's military from flight MS804 (though it is unclear whether they meant an automated signal or a manual one).

Now, Egypt's military, in a statement, says no such signal was received. We'll bring you more on that as we get it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-africa-36328976
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