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-   -   ET / Ethiopian 787 "Dreamliner" catches fire at LHR [12 Jul 2013] (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other-middle-eastern-african-airlines/1484336-et-ethiopian-787-dreamliner-catches-fire-lhr-12-jul-2013-a.html)

Firewind Jul 18, 13 5:47 pm

And have there been any reports as to why the Thomson 787 returned the day of the Ethiopian 787 fire?

(BTW: http://www.boston.com/businessupdate...lBM/story.html)

Dan1113 Jul 19, 13 6:20 am

Gosh, so many 787 issues with barely any around. Time to change that old phrase to, if it's boeing, I aint going...

Firewind Jul 19, 13 11:14 pm

Authorities contemplate response to AAIB's Ethiopian 787 fire findings:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-787-fire.html

AAIB's interim recommendations engender different responses among authorities, airlines:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...ll-beacon.html

JetSetDave Jul 21, 13 8:28 am

Update on the 787 investigation:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...acon-wire.html

Firewind Jul 22, 13 12:02 pm

Hopefully the different authorities can align their solutions. It's only a difference of inspect vs. disconnect at this point, but separate religions have grown from less. Especially here in FlyerTalk.

Dan1113 Jul 23, 13 2:53 am

If it is a wiring issue then it sounds like a pretty big deal, so I am surprised the reactions haven't been more...pronounced.

Firewind Jul 23, 13 9:34 am

Well, so far, the business media have only reported actions/reactions of the authorities and business interests in the event.

Dan1113 Jul 26, 13 11:56 am

An interesting development...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...96P0AK20130726

Firewind Jul 28, 13 8:56 pm

And... and... and...
 
787's chief engineer relieved...

http://www.flyertalk.com/story/chief...ems-arise.html

Contrast this news with statements made by other airlines about their inspections. To be sure, United did fuzz their report of the results of their inspections, just saying that things were fine -- can't say they lied.

...So, back to the point about the discrepant positions of those who are not as close to Boeing - AAIB - and those who are - FAA - who wanted it prominently known that they consulted with Boeing before issuing their directive.

I suggest that the fire on Ethiopian's 787 may have been more of a signal fire than it initially appeared. The term "near miss" has merit after all.

It may be a good day to buy Boeing stock the day after tomorrow.

Firewind Jul 30, 13 4:22 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 21143112)
If it is a wiring issue then it sounds like a pretty big deal, so I am surprised the reactions haven't been more...pronounced.

Nary a peep. Nary a speed bump in stock price. Is it too early to say that Boeing has played this just about perfectly - despite further negative information trickling out? Perhaps how or that it's trickled is the key. Worth at least a ^ call from the CEO to the Public Affairs VP.

DaviddesJ Jul 30, 13 6:34 am

Speculation about the repair of the fire damage:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/bu...air-teams.html

Firewind Jul 30, 13 8:37 am

Whatever they do to the Ethiopian plane, it will have to be portable - e.g., done in situ at LHR - else it will be an interesting experimental flight to PAE.

DaviddesJ Jul 30, 13 9:19 am


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 21182508)
Whatever they do to the Ethiopian plane, it will have to be portable - e.g., done in situ at LHR - else it will be an interesting experimental flight to PAE.

I think it's pretty easy to do it either way. Repairing the plane enough that it can be safely flown with no passengers should be a lot easier than doing the complete job. They would rather do it on site for publicity reasons, but from an engineering point of view getting the plane back to Everett shouldn't be that hard.

Firewind Jul 30, 13 10:10 am

Wouldn't pressurization be important and risky with a fix that's any less than the one needed for good?

DaviddesJ Jul 30, 13 10:30 am


Originally Posted by Firewind (Post 21183129)
Wouldn't pressurization be important and risky with a fix that's any less than the one needed for good?

Why is pressurization important for a flight with no passengers, and possibly at a low altitude?


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