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Old Mar 24, 2011, 3:36 pm
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Egyptair: fare rules refund?

Hi there,

I will be needing two Biz class tickets from Cairo to New York, these need to be fully refundable though. I find the Egyptair website to be quite unclear in terms of fees and charges.

Can anyone tell me if this fare (fare code: CIF) is fully refundable? Maybe someone here has more experience with reading the fare rules.

Also the website says that there is always a charge for online refunds? Is this true?

Full fare rules:

Code:
1 - psgr p1-2 adt                                 rules display
fare component  1    adt cainyc yy  cifrt2    pu 1 n
fcl: cifrt2    trf: 101 rule: 44pp bk:  c
ptc: adt-adult              ftc: bu -business unrestricted
ru.rule application
tc21 intermediate/business class flex fares /044pp/
 application
   area
     these fares apply
     between area 1 and area 2.
   class of service
     these fares apply for business class service.
   types of transportation
   fares shall be established and amended by
   iata using the criteria in resolution 111pp.
   ---
   whenever the transatlantic sector is flown in
   intermediate/business class and other sectors are
   in the same class or a lower class the applicable
   through intermediate/business class fare  shall be
   applied.
>

cd.child discounts
between area 1 and middle east   note - general rule does
not apply

  if the fare component is on
      one or more of the following
        any kq flight
        any ir flight
        any tm flight
  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the fare.
        ticket designator - ch and percent of discount
    or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted
    or - unaccompanied child 5-11 - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
         note -
          children under the age of 5 not permitted.
    or - infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent
         of the fare.
>
             ticket designator - in and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted

  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount
  or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted
  or - unaccompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the
         fare
  or - infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - in and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted

tc.tour conductor

         note -
          discounts apply. information is not available
>
          at this time...contact carrier for details.

so.stopovers

  unlimited stopovers permitted on the pricing unit.

tf.transfers/rtgs

  unlimited transfers permitted on the pricing unit
    fare break and embedded surface sectors permitted on the
     fare component.

su.surcharges
between area 1 and area 2
  no surcharge applies.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.
    and
    valid for travel between ewr and mil/rom on nonstop
    flights.

  no surcharge applies.
>
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.
    and
    valid for travel between ewr and prg on nonstop flights.

  security surcharge of usd 5.00 applies to all passengers.
  this surcharge applies per fare component from
  transatlantic sector(s).
  or
  security surcharge of usd 10.00 applies to all passengers.
  this surcharge applies from transatlantic sector(s) per
  round trip.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.

  miscellaneous surcharge of usd 10.00 applies to all
  passengers.
  this surcharge applies from transatlantic sector(s) per
  direction.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
>
    sector on any dl flight.


el.eligibility

         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not eligible

co.combinability
   fares may be combined on a half round trip basis with any
   fare for any carrier in any rule and tariff to form
   single/double open jaws/round trips/circle trips.
   the open jaw must consist of no more than 2 international
   fare components and the open segment must be in one
   country.
   end-on-end permitted. validate all fare components.
   travel must be via point of combination.
   add-ons permitted.
*ty*
>


 1 - psgr p1-2 adt                                 rules display
fare component  2    adt nyccai yy  cifrt2    pu 1 n
fcl: cifrt2    trf: 101 rule: 44pp bk:  c
ptc: adt-adult              ftc: bu -business unrestricted
ru.rule application
tc21 intermediate/business class flex fares /044pp/
 application
   area
     these fares apply
     between area 1 and area 2.
   class of service
     these fares apply for business class service.
   types of transportation
   fares shall be established and amended by
   iata using the criteria in resolution 111pp.
   ---
   whenever the transatlantic sector is flown in
   intermediate/business class and other sectors are
   in the same class or a lower class the applicable
   through intermediate/business class fare  shall be
   applied.
>

cd.child discounts
between area 1 and middle east   note - general rule does
not apply

  if the fare component is on
      one or more of the following
        any kq flight
        any ir flight
        any tm flight
  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the fare.
        ticket designator - ch and percent of discount
    or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted
    or - unaccompanied child 5-11 - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
         note -
          children under the age of 5 not permitted.
    or - infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent
         of the fare.
>
             ticket designator - in and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted

  accompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount
  or - infant under 2 with a seat - charge 100 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - ch and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted
  or - unaccompanied child 2-11 - charge 100 percent of the
         fare
  or - infant under 2 without a seat - charge 10 percent of
         the fare.
             ticket designator - in and percent of discount.
         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not permitted

tc.tour conductor

         note -
          discounts apply. information is not available
>
          at this time...contact carrier for details.

so.stopovers

  unlimited stopovers permitted on the pricing unit.

tf.transfers/rtgs

  unlimited transfers permitted on the pricing unit
    fare break and embedded surface sectors permitted on the
     fare component.

su.surcharges
between area 1 and area 2
  no surcharge applies.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.
    and
    valid for travel between ewr and mil/rom on nonstop
    flights.

  no surcharge applies.
>
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.
    and
    valid for travel between ewr and prg on nonstop flights.

  security surcharge of usd 5.00 applies to all passengers.
  this surcharge applies per fare component from
  transatlantic sector(s).
  or
  security surcharge of usd 10.00 applies to all passengers.
  this surcharge applies from transatlantic sector(s) per
  round trip.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
    sector on any co flight.

  miscellaneous surcharge of usd 10.00 applies to all
  passengers.
  this surcharge applies from transatlantic sector(s) per
  direction.
  provided
    valid for travel from/to departure of each transatlantic
>
    sector on any dl flight.


el.eligibility

         note -
          unaccompanied infant - not eligible

co.combinability
   fares may be combined on a half round trip basis with any
   fare for any carrier in any rule and tariff to form
   single/double open jaws/round trips/circle trips.
   the open jaw must consist of no more than 2 international
   fare components and the open segment must be in one
   country.
   end-on-end permitted. validate all fare components.
   travel must be via point of combination.
   add-ons permitted.
*ty*
>
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Old Mar 25, 2011, 11:27 am
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I recently booked economy travel through the Egypt Air Website.

I had difficulty interpreting the fare rules as listed on the website at the point of sale, as I wanted to make sure my segments were eligible for EQM.

After payment, I received a full text email which identified what class I ended up paying for. This was not viewable prior to the reservation and was not stated specifically in the rules.

My point being is that I found out after I had bought the ticket, and that the fare classes were not viewable prior to its purchase.
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Old Mar 30, 2011, 3:44 am
  #3  
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Milwaukee, Wi. USA
Posts: 675
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I am looking at purchasing an Old J seat business class ticket from SE Asia to London on Egypt Air and was concerned whether it was refundable or not. So
I called Egypt air in New York and they told me. It is refundable.

Anyone have any Experience on how long their refunds take?
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