Norwegian Air stability through summer?
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Likely planning to fly CDG-OAK in late Sept but I've just been waiting and watching, assuming cheap premium would remain available (with possible fire sale pricing at some point) but improbably, discount premium has disappeared for a bunch of dates and it's just Flex at this point. Seat map looks like 17/35 filled for the date I'm eyeing. I'm hoping the price drops back at some point to ~$800 but if it's staying at $1,179, we may consider another option (connecting through MAN on MT is $550 for what looks like a similar premium product).
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Interesting. We're planning on about 2 weeks touring around Italy and had planned to rent a car (there will be multiple different hotel stays).
So, can someone recommend an agency that will issue Norwegian tickets and guarantee the trip if I also rent a car for the duration? I'd planned on insurance but I *do* appreciate the head-up about just being reimbursed instead of being re-booked.
So, can someone recommend an agency that will issue Norwegian tickets and guarantee the trip if I also rent a car for the duration? I'd planned on insurance but I *do* appreciate the head-up about just being reimbursed instead of being re-booked.
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This may not be the best option but you could put in an upgrade bid. Of course, you'll then have to wait until whenever they process those (T-36?) to see if you get it. I seem to recall there's even a slider that will give you feedback as to your percentage chance that the bid will be accepted. Of course that's meaningless but I seem to recall some text at least. I've flown out of OAK on Norwegian a few times (3 or 4) and I known I've been offered an upsell at the airport at least twice for like 500USD. I haven't seen that ex-Europe. I have also tried the bidding thing with the minimum bid (roughly 200USD I think) and naturally THAT wasn't accepted.
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I flew LGW-JFK earlier this week and the flight was no more than 1/3 full. Had an entire row (9 across!) to myself. I don't see how it's possible they could be solvent into 2020. That being said, it was an excellent flight! They'll be sorely missed if they do eventually go the way of WOW.
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I flew LGW-JFK earlier this week and the flight was no more than 1/3 full. Had an entire row (9 across!) to myself. I don't see how it's possible they could be solvent into 2020. That being said, it was an excellent flight! They'll be sorely missed if they do eventually go the way of WOW.
But it does still happen at times that I see entire rows available for US-Europe/Europe-US flights on legacy major airlines too.
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According to Danish newspaper ExtraBladet, the Norwegian flight (787) from Copenhagen to Orlando yesterday was diverted to Goose Bay, Canada due to an engine failure. Not sure if they are still there or when they will be on their way again.
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The aircraft tail number is LN-LNB (for those that want to track the aircraft).
I don't know if Goose Bay has the facilities to change out the engine. If not, they'll need to do a single engine ferry to a maintenance facility that has the proper equipment to perform an engine change - Montreal may be the closest facility to fly the aircraft to. This would require pilots certified to do single engine ferries. Needless to say, the aircraft would be empty for the ferry.
If they're able to replace the engine in Goose, they'll need to get a spare engine and maintenance personnel to Goose. It will probably be faster to just ferry the plane to a location that has a spare engine rather than bring in personnel/equipment.
This plane (LN-LNB) should be repaired and flying again within a few days. I would expect Norwegian to fly in another aircraft to pick up the stranded passengers - there isn't much in the way of facilities in/around Goose Bay.
For those concerned about the Boeing 787, this is a known problem with the Rolls Royce Trent 1000 engines. It is not a Boeing 787 issue per se, as Boeing 787s with GE GEnx engines have had no engine reliability issues. I've flown the 787 with GEnx engines and I love the aircraft … it is the nicest passenger aircraft that I've flown.
Edit: for those geeks interested in Trent 1000 problems, here's a link to a YouTube video that explains the issues:
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I flew LGW-JFK earlier this week and the flight was no more than 1/3 full. Had an entire row (9 across!) to myself. I don't see how it's possible they could be solvent into 2020. That being said, it was an excellent flight! They'll be sorely missed if they do eventually go the way of WOW.
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DY to reduce US flights significantly during winter 2019/2020.
DY are finalizing the winter schedules.
Following the route cut earlier this year, DY are preparing more cuts during the 2019/2020 winter, according to a Norwegian Financial newspaper (e24): https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwegian-air-shuttle/norwegian-forbereder-langdistansekutt-fra-skandinavia-til-usa-til-vinteren/24619273
All CPH-US flights will be cancelled
Most ARN-US flights will be cancelled (FLL-ARN should remain)
Most OSL-US flights will be cancelled (FLL-OSL and NYC-OSL should remain)
LGW-ORD, LGW-DEN and LGW-SEA should be cancelled.
Program should be presented in the coming weeks!
Following the route cut earlier this year, DY are preparing more cuts during the 2019/2020 winter, according to a Norwegian Financial newspaper (e24): https://e24.no/boers-og-finans/norwegian-air-shuttle/norwegian-forbereder-langdistansekutt-fra-skandinavia-til-usa-til-vinteren/24619273
All CPH-US flights will be cancelled
Most ARN-US flights will be cancelled (FLL-ARN should remain)
Most OSL-US flights will be cancelled (FLL-OSL and NYC-OSL should remain)
LGW-ORD, LGW-DEN and LGW-SEA should be cancelled.
Program should be presented in the coming weeks!
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I bought my BOS-FCO tickets last night (September departure). I elected to go with Aer Lingus and change planes in Dublin. For 3 people, I saved about $225 r/t on the cost of the tickets alone. I investigated travel insurance that would include "Financial interruption" from the carrier and that would have cost an additional $200. As much as I'm a fan of Norwegian's product, and I've flown with them several times over the years, I'm not staking my one big vacation on their financial stability (or lack thereof).
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The larger issue is that when these cancellations occur, passengers are advised that they may either have a refund or a reroute to or from another location. When SNN ended, passengers were offered DUB. If a passenger takes the refund, replacing the SNN flight as we move into high season can become a great deal more expensive.
The major reason to fly DY is that its fares are low. This suggests a budget traveler who will be hit particularly hard or will be unable to afford travel if shifted off to some other carrier during high season. Unless booking very close in, it seems that the risks of booking DY include having to be uncomfortably flexible or be willing to spend a good deal more money than one would have had to spend back when advance purchase seats were available.
The major reason to fly DY is that its fares are low. This suggests a budget traveler who will be hit particularly hard or will be unable to afford travel if shifted off to some other carrier during high season. Unless booking very close in, it seems that the risks of booking DY include having to be uncomfortably flexible or be willing to spend a good deal more money than one would have had to spend back when advance purchase seats were available.