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Jun 10, 2019, 3:28 pm
#46
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: EXT
Posts: 477
Looks like Carlisle tickets are up for sale with a 4th of July starting date: Dublin, Belfast and Southend. Would like to make a weekend of claiming some new airports for my flight history but with neither Saturday flights to/from SEN (which I'd love to include as it's where I grew up) or public transport links to Carlisle itself, could be tricky. But then, that's half the fun...
Jun 11, 2019, 2:12 pm
#47
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,121
Is that one way or return? I too baulk at the fares but I guess in the low cost airline world paying a realistic price seems an anathema. Ł125 each way to avoid a long train journey and a ferry crossing doesn't seem quite so bad...
Jun 11, 2019, 2:13 pm
#48
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,121
Looks like Carlisle tickets are up for sale with a 4th of July starting date: Dublin, Belfast and Southend. Would like to make a weekend of claiming some new airports for my flight history but with neither Saturday flights to/from SEN (which I'd love to include as it's where I grew up) or public transport links to Carlisle itself, could be tricky. But then, that's half the fun...
(Just realised that I've made a massive slight against Estonian cabin crew. Sorry!)
Jun 11, 2019, 3:17 pm
#49
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: UK
Programs: BD Gold, BAEC Gold, Hilton HHonors
Posts: 867
Some routes are super expensive but with almost no competition: eg I had a trip to Stornoway a few months ago where the alternative to a 45min flight was a full day driving and ferry etc! And they are a lot of fun to fly with 😁
Jun 12, 2019, 3:06 am
#50
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: SPG Platinum
Posts: 1,683
Jul 25, 2019, 6:00 pm
#51
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,121
Loganair back to profitability, and worried avout EU261...
BBC News - Flight delay court cases could close routes, says Loganair boss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-49108378
BBC News - Flight delay court cases could close routes, says Loganair boss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-49108378
Sep 19, 2019, 1:47 pm
#53
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bridport, Dorset
Programs: Mucci, BA Bronze, Hilton Gold
Posts: 2,121
Loganair are replacing Flybe on the East Midlands to Glasgow and Edinburgh routes from the winter timetable.
I wonder what other changes we will see Flybe making, and if Loganair will take over any more routes?
https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2019/09/19/loganair-to-take-over-two-of-flybes-scottish-routes-from-east-midlands/
I wonder what other changes we will see Flybe making, and if Loganair will take over any more routes?
https://www.businesstraveller.com/business-travel/2019/09/19/loganair-to-take-over-two-of-flybes-scottish-routes-from-east-midlands/
Sep 23, 2019, 5:50 am
#54
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
Loganair back to profitability, and worried avout EU261...
BBC News - Flight delay court cases could close routes, says Loganair boss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-49108378
BBC News - Flight delay court cases could close routes, says Loganair boss
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...iness-49108378
Sep 23, 2019, 10:52 am
#55
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 7,987
Though I would say that the judicial decisions related to the regulation (not the regulation itself) are in several cases going too far.
Sep 23, 2019, 4:18 pm
#56
Join Date: Jul 2001
Programs: Marriott LT Tit; Hyatt Explorist; Hilton CC Gold; IHG CC Plt; Hertz (MR) 5 star
Posts: 5,536
I fail to see why it's a bad thing airlines are forced to compensate passengers if they can't keep to their contractual obligations to the detriment of said passengers. Those airlines should indeed go insolvent.
Though I would say that the judicial decisions related to the regulation (not the regulation itself) are in several cases going too far.
Though I would say that the judicial decisions related to the regulation (not the regulation itself) are in several cases going too far.
With the number of airlines that are going insolvent in Europe, that should be a hint that EU261 is too generous. Ticket prices need to rise significantly in order to fly Europe profitably with EU261.
Sep 23, 2019, 7:16 pm
#57
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 186
Well, the amount of compensation is in many cases larger than the amount paid for the ticket. And expecting airlines to always run on time is absolutely ludicrous - there are too many issues that can arise from maintenance to weather to even crew staffing that cause flight delays. And once a plane is delayed, that has a domino effect on every flight that day on that particular aircraft.
With the number of airlines that are going insolvent in Europe, that should be a hint that EU261 is too generous. Ticket prices need to rise significantly in order to fly Europe profitably with EU261.
With the number of airlines that are going insolvent in Europe, that should be a hint that EU261 is too generous. Ticket prices need to rise significantly in order to fly Europe profitably with EU261.
If the alternative is what they have over in America, I say thank you, but no thank you.
Sep 24, 2019, 1:34 am
#58
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,302
What do you base that on? EU261 costs are already covered in the ticket price and have been for years. The only time I recall them being listed seperately was by Ryanair and it was all of 2 Euro per journey.
Sep 24, 2019, 2:26 am
#59
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Manchester, United Kingdom
Programs: Hilton Gold, Priority Club Blue, SPG Gold, Sofitel Gold, FB Ivory, BA Blue
Posts: 8,474
Yep, from an airline’s perspective there is nothing unmanageable about EU261, and it incentivises airlines with bad ops to consider the many benefits of doing better.
Sep 24, 2019, 5:22 am
#60
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 7,987
Well, the amount of compensation is in many cases larger than the amount paid for the ticket. And expecting airlines to always run on time is absolutely ludicrous - there are too many issues that can arise from maintenance to weather to even crew staffing that cause flight delays. And once a plane is delayed, that has a domino effect on every flight that day on that particular aircraft.
With the number of airlines that are going insolvent in Europe, that should be a hint that EU261 is too generous. Ticket prices need to rise significantly in order to fly Europe profitably with EU261.
With the number of airlines that are going insolvent in Europe, that should be a hint that EU261 is too generous. Ticket prices need to rise significantly in order to fly Europe profitably with EU261.
