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China Eastern MU5735 737-800 [not MAX] Crashed 21 March 2022, 132 onboard
Mar 24, 2022, 9:15 am
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Just because something is possible or plausible, or because something actually happened (like UA232), doesn't make a similar future outcome "likely."
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Mar 24, 2022, 8:31 pm
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Just received a notification, they found the second black box which is the FDR, unknown condition, will be sent to the lab in Beijing
They also found large piece wreckage 10 kms/6 miles away from the main crash site yesterday
Update: 1 hr later the gov official media said they didn’t find the second black fox, fake news
They also found large piece wreckage 10 kms/6 miles away from the main crash site yesterday
Update: 1 hr later the gov official media said they didn’t find the second black fox, fake news
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Mar 25, 2022, 2:35 am
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If true, then this is very important. A broken off part can have two reasons:
- break up mid-air upon "falling" from the sky
- mechanical failure causing the crash
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Mar 25, 2022, 8:35 am
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Do you have any reference?
If true, then this is very important. A broken off part can have two reasons:
If true, then this is very important. A broken off part can have two reasons:
- break up mid-air upon "falling" from the sky
- mechanical failure causing the crash
The high altitude departure from controlled flight
The temporary reversion of the initial dive
The impact with the ground and dispersion of debris
Mar 25, 2022, 9:21 am
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Just received a notification, they found the second black box which is the FDR, unknown condition, will be sent to the lab in Beijing
They also found large piece wreckage 10 kms/6 miles away from the main crash site yesterday
Update: 1 hr later the gov official media said they didn’t find the second black fox, fake news
They also found large piece wreckage 10 kms/6 miles away from the main crash site yesterday
Update: 1 hr later the gov official media said they didn’t find the second black fox, fake news
On Mar 24th 2022 the CAAC reported in their 4th press conference, that a large piece of debris (1.3 meters by 0.1 meters) from the aircraft was found in farmland at Yatang Squad (coordinates N23.3111 E111.0002) in Siwang Village (coordinates N23.3054 E110.9711), about 14km west of the crash site and about 2.7km south of the last ADS-B position in cruise flight at 29100 feet MSL (it needs to be pointed out, we don't know whether this separated before or after the dive at this time).
Then there is this:
On Mar 25th 2022 the CAAC reported in the 5th press conference, that the gear box of an engine as well as the main landing gear have been found and recovered. Some of the aircraft parts showed traces of fire. The CVR's memory chip is damaged and needs to be sent to the chip manufacturer for repair according to recommendation by the manufacturer. At this time there are no time estimates of when the data can be downloaded.
Mar 25, 2022, 9:59 am
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Looks like something did fall off of the aircraft but we don't know if this happened before or after the initial dive started. However this would seem to reduce the likelihood of the pilot suicide hypothesis. Whatever did happen was a violent enough maneuver to shake something loose from the aircraft (maybe something was already damaged?).
Mar 25, 2022, 3:37 pm
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Mar 25, 2022, 8:53 pm
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What is cause and what is effect? Was the cause a maneuver and the effect to break off a part of the plane or was the cause a technical malfunction, e.g. break off of a part, and the effect the plane to start a deep dive? Don't forget, the crash site is pretty close to the starting point of descent for landing. There are pretty severe forces with that speed working on the plane. Any change of the flight path or a change of air pressure can have the effect that weak parts break and cause a severe failure.
Do you have any historical data to back that ?
Mar 26, 2022, 6:40 am
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It's interesting that the crash has completely faded from the news.( here in the USA) I haven't seen anything about in in my usual news sources in days. FT is the only source still talking about it.
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Mar 26, 2022, 7:58 am
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HK news only reported the deceased identification process. No updates on the aircraft side. Not sure whether it is because they have nothing to report or they have nothing they want to report. Given the period of time elapsed I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt (i.e. the former), notwithstanding my politics.
Mar 26, 2022, 1:55 pm
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Yep, another example of how the media controls everything. And I'm implying no partisanship here. This has been happening across all administrations for many decades. Obviously, the demographic here cares more about a crash than your average viewer but I imagine the story is still interesting to the average American.
Mar 26, 2022, 2:09 pm
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Mar 26, 2022, 4:33 pm
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From the 6th press conference on March 26
1, 1st debris found 10km away from crash site has been determined as trailing edge of the winglet
2, Another 8x3 cm debris found 12km away, might be from the same wingjet debris
3, Emergency locator transmitter of second black box found, no sign of second box yet
4, The identity of 120 victims out of 132 people on board has been determined by DNA identification
5, No explosive components found at China plane crash site
Source in Chinese media/Xinhua website/CGTN etc
On chinese Tiktok, local residents are saying that the government will reward them whoever find more debris nearby, away from the main crash site
1, 1st debris found 10km away from crash site has been determined as trailing edge of the winglet
2, Another 8x3 cm debris found 12km away, might be from the same wingjet debris
3, Emergency locator transmitter of second black box found, no sign of second box yet
4, The identity of 120 victims out of 132 people on board has been determined by DNA identification
5, No explosive components found at China plane crash site
Source in Chinese media/Xinhua website/CGTN etc
On chinese Tiktok, local residents are saying that the government will reward them whoever find more debris nearby, away from the main crash site