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China Eastern MU5735 737-800 [not MAX] Crashed 21 March 2022, 132 onboard
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Analysis: China Eastern crash could set back Boeing's China recovery, return of MAX (msn.com)
China Eastern has grounded its fleet of 737-800s, state media reported. It is the country's sixth-largest operator of the type, with 89 planes, IBA said, but other Chinese carriers are continuing to fly the jets and China Eastern has not grounded its similar but slightly smaller 737-700s.
Jefferies analysts said China's aviation regulator was unlikely to ground the 737-800 fleet unless it specifically suspected a technical failure as the root cause because of the operational consequences of grounding more than 1,000 planes in the world's second-biggest domestic aviation market.
However, there are concerns the Chinese public could look to avoid flying on 737-800s until the cause of the crash is determined, given the broader reputational issues with the 737 family caused by the MAX, Cowen analyst Cai von Rumohr said in a note.
"Hence, isolating the cause of the crash will be critical," he added, noting the leading causes of commercial air transport crashes tend to be maintenance issues, pilot error or sabotage, rather than manufacturing or design issues.
Jefferies analysts said China's aviation regulator was unlikely to ground the 737-800 fleet unless it specifically suspected a technical failure as the root cause because of the operational consequences of grounding more than 1,000 planes in the world's second-biggest domestic aviation market.
However, there are concerns the Chinese public could look to avoid flying on 737-800s until the cause of the crash is determined, given the broader reputational issues with the 737 family caused by the MAX, Cowen analyst Cai von Rumohr said in a note.
"Hence, isolating the cause of the crash will be critical," he added, noting the leading causes of commercial air transport crashes tend to be maintenance issues, pilot error or sabotage, rather than manufacturing or design issues.
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One interesting detail from the Aviation Safety Network:
Sounds to me like a technical malfunction. But let's wait and see what the investigation brings up.
The location where the descent from 29100 feet was initiated, coincides with the point where flight MU5735 began its descent (also from 29100 feet), the day before the accident.
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While facts are just emerging.... the UK's DailyMail had quite a bit of print and pictures I had not seen yet.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-reveal.html“China Eastern yesterday grounded all of its Boeing 737-800 aircraft after the incident, in which the plane suddenly nose-dived and plummeted 30,000ft in two minutes before slamming into the ground at 350mph.
The incident represents China's deadliest air crash in nearly three decades. The deadliest Chinese commercial flight accident was a China Northwest Airlines crash in 1994, which killed all 160 onboard.
President Xi Jinping quickly called for a full probe following the crash as search teams, firefighters and other personnel descended upon the site in a rural area of Guangxi province. “
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rs-reveal.html“China Eastern yesterday grounded all of its Boeing 737-800 aircraft after the incident, in which the plane suddenly nose-dived and plummeted 30,000ft in two minutes before slamming into the ground at 350mph.
The incident represents China's deadliest air crash in nearly three decades. The deadliest Chinese commercial flight accident was a China Northwest Airlines crash in 1994, which killed all 160 onboard.
President Xi Jinping quickly called for a full probe following the crash as search teams, firefighters and other personnel descended upon the site in a rural area of Guangxi province. “
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I'm listening in to what should be the first press conf given by officials on the accident at Guangxi. They threw no bones on probable cause.
A reporter tried to ask last maintenance of the downed aircraft, flight hours of the crew and whether the NTSB rep will come into the country. MU rep couldn't answer any of it (pretty poor prep by MU PR team).
A reporter tried to ask last maintenance of the downed aircraft, flight hours of the crew and whether the NTSB rep will come into the country. MU rep couldn't answer any of it (pretty poor prep by MU PR team).
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The faster you try to recover, the higher the g-load. It takes a lot of altitude to recover from a high-altitude upset because you have to balance the increasing airspeed with the high g-loads that result from raising the nose at such a high speed.
What we know so far is consistent with a high-altitude upset. (That doesn't mean it was an upset, just that it is consistent with one) The question would become what initiated the upset.
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Earlier in this thread there was a theory that the fuselage was wingless as it fell......a new CNN video clearly shows the wings attached.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/
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Earlier in this thread there was a theory that the fuselage was wingless as it fell......a new CNN video clearly shows the wings attached.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/
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It amazes me with crashes so intense that they usually recover the voice and data recorders in workable condition. Let's hope that's true with this one.
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Earlier in this thread there was a theory that the fuselage was wingless as it fell......a new CNN video clearly shows the wings attached.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/
https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...p-news-videos/