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China Eastern MU5735 737-800 [not MAX] Crashed 21 March 2022, 132 onboard

Old Mar 21, 2022, 4:38 am
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China Eastern MU5735 737-800 [not MAX] Crashed 21 March 2022, 132 onboard

Old Mar 26, 2022, 7:47 pm
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Originally Posted by jizen
From the 6th press conference on March 26
1, 1st debris found 10km away from crash site has been determined as trailing edge of the winglet
2, Another 8x3 cm debris found 12km away, might be from the same wingjet debris
3, Emergency locator transmitter of second black box found, no sign of second box yet
4, The identity of 120 victims out of 132 people on board has been determined by DNA identification
5, No explosive components found at China plane crash site

Source in Chinese media/Xinhua website/CGTN etc

On chinese Tiktok, local residents are saying that the government will reward them whoever find more debris nearby, away from the main crash site

Oh boy, the local junk yards are going to gave a field day selling all kinds of car parts for gardening in the woods
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Old Mar 26, 2022, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
What is there to talk about though until more data is released?
I think that’s exactly why this has mostly disappeared from news coverage in the U.S., at least. If evidence of a particular cause emerges, it will get plenty of coverage.
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Old Mar 26, 2022, 10:21 pm
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CCTV is reporting that they found the Flight Data Recorder.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 12:17 am
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yup, popped up on the news aggregator here.

Here's hoping both "black" boxes yield data
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 2:30 am
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CCTV is reporting that they found the Flight Data Recorder.
They also said that they didn't find any explosive residue at the crash scene in the debris.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 5:58 am
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Originally Posted by LarryJ
The aircraft and engine manufacturers are normally invited to participate as parties to the investigation.
Perhaps "normal" when crashes is here. This is, after all, an oversea crash. Even inviting NTSB isn't a guarantee (I know they did).
I am sure if there is technical questions only Boeing can answer, they will be asked. Besides that, I can't imagine their presences being crucial for the investigation.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 6:42 am
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A good update of info so far.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...oeing-737.html
Search teams have recovered the second black box from the wreckage of the China Eastern 737-800 as authorities have now confirmed all passengers and crew were killed in the crash.

The recovery of the second black box should allow experts to begin piecing together what caused the plane to nosedive into the mountainous terrain in rural China last Monday.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 8:05 am
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Originally Posted by chrisfwm
Perhaps "normal" when crashes is here. This is, after all, an oversea crash. Even inviting NTSB isn't a guarantee (I know they did).
I am sure if there is technical questions only Boeing can answer, they will be asked. Besides that, I can't imagine their presences being crucial for the investigation.

Give a thought to the final report taking years to be released and a finding that something went wrong with the product and it's up to Boeing to figure out what to do let alone Airbus and others might have a similar product.This has happened before and it shouldn't happen again.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by Lomapaseo
Give a thought to the final report taking years to be released and a finding that something went wrong with the product and it's up to Boeing to figure out what to do let alone Airbus and others might have a similar product.This has happened before and it shouldn't happen again.
Well said. This is why it is so important to understand what was/were the cause(s) of this tragedy and what effects had this on the plane and its fate.

Lukily, this has been the case in the last decades in civil aviation. Otherwise, we would have these crashes on a weekly baiss. Just look at the historic data way back in the 60s in terms of number of accidents and keep in mind that today we have a multiple of the number of flights in comparison. I am pretty sure, that Boeing, Airbus, ... and (hopefully) all airlines will learn of this.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Scrooge McDuck
Well said. This is why it is so important to understand what was/were the cause(s) of this tragedy and what effects had this on the plane and its fate.

Lukily, this has been the case in the last decades in civil aviation. Otherwise, we would have these crashes on a weekly baiss. Just look at the historic data way back in the 60s in terms of number of accidents and keep in mind that today we have a multiple of the number of flights in comparison. I am pretty sure, that Boeing, Airbus, ... and (hopefully) all airlines will learn of this.
The only thing we can hope for is that it's not an issue that needs to be immediately addressed by other airlines. If it is, and the report takes an extended period of time, that's very, very bad.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 9:55 pm
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Given how long the 738 has been around and in huge numbers, and after reading that "book" mentioned above, I think it is less likely it will be an urgent 738 design or airworthiness issue but rather more likely to be a maintenance/weather/human error (or even sabotage) issue...
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Originally Posted by nk15
Given how long the 738 has been around and in huge numbers, and after reading that "book" mentioned above, I think it is less likely it will be an urgent 738 design or airworthiness issue but rather more likely to be a maintenance/weather/human error (or even sabotage) issue...
I agree with this..... I can't imagine some new, groundbreaking issue finding the 737-800 has a major problem. This variant of the 737 has proven to be one of the most reliable in the history of modern aviation.
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Old Mar 27, 2022, 10:08 pm
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I agree with this..... I can't imagine some new, groundbreaking issue finding the 737-800 has a major problem. This variant of the 737 has proven to be one of the most reliable in the history of modern aviation.
What if it’s an issue that only manifests over a certain time (though admittedly have no idea what that would be)?
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What if it’s an issue that only manifests over a certain time (though admittedly have no idea what that would be)?
This was a relatively new plane.
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
What if it’s an issue that only manifests over a certain time (though admittedly have no idea what that would be)?
Yeah, I always think of that. # of cycles (take-offs/landings) to cause parts to fatigue. I know A LOT of planning with respect to that goes into engineering/design and this wasn't that old of a plane. Of course, anything is possible and that's why there is such an extensive investigation. That being said I'd be very surprised if this is the beginning of a massive problem with this plane. I'm getting on one in two days and have zero elevated fear as a result of this incident.
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