New Air China route PEK-NCE
Air China have just announced a new nonstop route from Beijing to Nice. Flights operated year round, three times a week using a 332 from 2 August. There are rumours of more routes opening imminently between mainland China and Nice. More details here:
https://www.nice.aeroport.fr/Passage...-par-Air-China |
Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 31226000)
Air China have just announced a new nonstop route from Beijing to Nice. Flights operated year round, three times a week using a 332 from 2 August. There are rumours of more routes opening imminently between mainland China and Nice. More details here:
https://www.nice.aeroport.fr/Passage...-par-Air-China NCE-PEK 12:25-04:55(+1) Wed, Fri, Sun PEK-NCE 02:50-08:05 Wed, Fri, Sun I thought it could be a good ex-EU option for August when ex-LHR prices are £1k in Y, but not sure that's going to work... The IFE on those A330s is woeful too. |
Originally Posted by Deltus
(Post 31226646)
I thought it could be a good ex-EU option for August when ex-LHR prices are £1k in Y, but not sure that's going to work...
In short, I wouldn't hold my breath about cheap fares in high season. Low season (e.g. November and January) may prove more alluring cost-wise. |
Originally Posted by Deltus
(Post 31226646)
That scheduling looks unhelpful:
NCE-PEK 12:25-04:55(+1) Wed, Fri, Sun PEK-NCE 02:50-08:05 Wed, Fri, Sun I thought it could be a good ex-EU option for August when ex-LHR prices are £1k in Y, but not sure that's going to work... The IFE on those A330s is woeful too. |
I spend summers on the East coast of Spain and am seeing a steady increase in Chinese visitors each year. I’m sure the whole Med area is experiencing heightened numbers.
Nice seems like a master stroke, as it is near the border with Italy. That’s two markets in one. |
Originally Posted by LapLap
(Post 31228555)
I spend summers on the East coast of Spain and am seeing a steady increase in Chinese visitors each year. I’m sure the whole Med area is experiencing heightened numbers.
Nice seems like a master stroke, as it is near the border with Italy. That’s two markets in one. |
Originally Posted by Deltus
(Post 31226646)
That scheduling looks unhelpful:
NCE-PEK 12:25-04:55(+1) Wed, Fri, Sun PEK-NCE 02:50-08:05 Wed, Fri, Sun I thought it could be a good ex-EU option for August when ex-LHR prices are £1k in Y, but not sure that's going to work... The IFE on those A330s is woeful too. CX from Hong Kong operates similar schedules. Schedule might be "optimal" if the flight was leaving an hour earlier from PEK and an hour later from NCE. But CA wishes a shorter turnaround. Air China Business seats on A330 have plenty of space. They are pair seats that transform into flat bed, far better than AF NEV. Same width but with 80" pitch instead of 62". But no more privacy. Y is 2x4x2, so not bad. They will take some business away from AF, EK and QR. They currently offer a business fare from NCE at EUR2,200 and that is competitive. |
Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 31229301)
The schedule is a normal schedule for China/EU flights.
CX from Hong Kong operates similar schedules. Schedule might be "optimal" if the flight was leaving an hour earlier from PEK and an hour later from NCE. But CA wishes a shorter turnaround. |
Indeed, it is hard to compare LHR to a small regional airport.
"Convenience" is a personal judgment. Personally, I strongly dislike and avoid 12h day flights such as the PEK-LHR. Travelling in J where I can sleep, I strongly favor flights arriving early morning. Anyway, most Asian airlines offer a night departure from Asia arriving early morning in Europe (UK has one hour time difference so it makes day flights a bit easier). With its heavy traffic, LHR is a bit of an exception allowing an array of flights. Even European airlines tend to favor evening departures from Asia. That is why I called it a "normal" schedule. |
Yes, I think that LHR is a bit of a different story. One should also remember that airlines fly to LHR in full knowledge that many people may further connect there, even if they do not necessarily have partners with hubs there. In all regional airports of the likes of NCE, MAN, TXL, GVA, BCN or MXP, the idea is that we will just take what we are given and be happy with it as it avoids adding a connection. To and from NCE, this will just mean not only nonstop flights to/from PEK but one stop flights to/from a very large number of Chinese domestic airports and that will make a lot of people very happy.
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
(Post 31230653)
Yes, I think that LHR is a bit of a different story. One should also remember that airlines fly to LHR in full knowledge that many people may further connect there, even if they do not necessarily have partners with hubs there. In all regional airports of the likes of NCE, MAN, TXL, GVA, BCN or MXP, the idea is that we will just take what we are given and be happy with it as it avoids adding a connection. To and from NCE, this will just mean not only nonstop flights to/from PEK but one stop flights to/from a very large number of Chinese domestic airports and that will make a lot of people very happy.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 31233214)
Would you be happy with a 5 hour delay, and a night (or 3) in a crappy hotel?
Nonstop flights don't make bad airlines good, but if you are going to fly with any given airline, ultimately, one flight is always less of a risk of delays and cancellations than two flights, and two flights are always less of a risk of delays and cancellations than three flights. |
A 3am departure out of PEK is indeed late, considering the airport train shuts down well before 3 hours prior.
http://en.bcia.com.cn/traffic/express/index.shtml |
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