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yorweb Dec 7, 18 11:30 pm

CZ - Short stopover in SYX (Sanya)?
 
Looking to book a return trip from LON-MNL next month and China Southern have come up cheapest. Flown with them before (to Hanoi) and thought they were OK and the overnight in CAN (using TWOV) was quite straightforward once I found the immigration desks.

However the forthcoming flights also involve a short stopover in Sanya and I am wondering what this involves? I suspect I will have to exit the aircraft but will I also need to collect baggage, go through immigration then only to come straight back through again? If it's anything like what I experienced in Xiamen (when most of the passengers didn't have paper copies of their flight tickets and chaos descended on the single immigration agent working at 1am in the morning), I will pay extra money and fly with Royal Brunei instead.

Bub001 Dec 8, 18 3:12 am

I believe that TWOV will NOT apply because you have 2 stops in the PRC. Quite apart from the potential chaos, I would advise you to check out visa requirements carefully...a short stop is still a stop

moondog Dec 8, 18 11:46 am


Originally Posted by Bub001 (Post 30511907)
I believe that TWOV will NOT apply because you have 2 stops in the PRC. Quite apart from the potential chaos, I would advise you to check out visa requirements carefully...a short stop is still a stop

Multiple stops are certainly fine, as long as the total stay in China is 24 hours or less.

yorweb Dec 8, 18 11:53 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 30512957)
Multiple stops are certainly fine, as long as the total stay in China is 24 hours or less.

I am not going this route as I don't want the hassle because it does indeed involve getting off the plane, collecting luggage, going throigh immigration only to have check back in, go through immigration to get back on the same plane. I am not that desperate to save 40.

I've also read there's a small chance that I could be denied boarding because Sanya is not in the TWOV scheme according to TIMATIC. Indeed when I made a dummy booking, the CZ website actually states "The China Transit Visa will be required for Non-Chinese Passport holders if passenger is transiting to a third country via CZ652/CZ651 London-Sanya flight." Appreciate I won't be in China for 24 hours but I am putting myself in the hands of the checkin or gate agent as to whether I actually get on the plane. Couple of years ago I was checking in at Manchester Airport en-route to the Philippines and was asked to show my Visa to enter that country so you're not always dealing with the brightest of buttons.

tris06 Dec 9, 18 8:33 am

SZX is not Sanya but actually Shenzhen which is next to Hong Kong.

They have similar procedures as CAN (guangzhou). Checked in Baggage can be held by the airline if you decide at check in , in UK if you don't want to pick it up in Shenzhen.

From 1st January 2019. Shenzhen will allow a 144hr visa free stopover. You can travel anywhere In the province of Guangdong.

SYX is Sanya by the way. So maybe that is the error.

YVR Cockroach Dec 9, 18 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by tris06 (Post 30515364)
SZX is not Sanya but actually Shenzhen which is next to Hong Kong.

They have similar procedures as CAN (guangzhou). Checked in Baggage can be held by the airline if you decide at check in , in UK if you don't want to pick it up in Shenzhen.

From 1st January 2019. Shenzhen will allow a 144hr visa free stopover. You can travel anywhere In the province of Guangdong.

SYX is Sanya by the way. So maybe that is the error.

And to reiterate, SZX and CAN are in Guangdong.

I've actually flown between SZX and SYX. Airport may seem big and busy but the apparently-long security lines go through pretty fast.

moondog Dec 9, 18 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by tris06 (Post 30515364)
SZX is not Sanya but actually Shenzhen which is next to Hong Kong.

They have similar procedures as CAN (guangzhou). Checked in Baggage can be held by the airline if you decide at check in , in UK if you don't want to pick it up in Shenzhen.

What does szx have to with this topic?

yorweb Dec 9, 18 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 30516452)
What does szx have to with this topic?

I erroneously put SZX instead of SYZ in the thread title.

Still it is interesting to know that SZX is implementing TWOV from January 1st. Shenzhen Airlines have flights from London-Manila and stopover in Shenzhen could be useful.

The outcome of all this is that I am going to hang on a couple of weeks and see if the fares come down.

moondog Dec 9, 18 9:31 pm


Originally Posted by yorweb (Post 30517307)
I erroneously put SZX instead of SYZ in the thread title.

Still it is interesting to know that SZX is implementing TWOV from January 1st. Shenzhen Airlines have flights from London-Manila and stopover in Shenzhen could be useful.

The outcome of all this is that I am going to hang on a couple of weeks and see if the fares come down.

Ah, I didn't even notice SZX in the thread title, but I just alerted a moderator to change it for you. I would much rather transit in Sanya (if you could get direct flights in and out) than Shenzhen myself.

NewbieRunner Dec 9, 18 10:11 pm

Thread title updated as suggested.

NewbieRunner, Senior Moderator

ms264556 Jan 16, 19 9:25 pm

I flew CHC-CAN-SYX-LHR last month.
Can thoroughly recommend avoiding SYX routes.

The CAN-SYX leg is domestic, so you have to go through immigration and customs at CAN, then back through security to a couple of special gates in a separate part of T2 for SYX flights. The gates are downstairs, small, cold, with toilets and no other facilities/shops. My tip is to exit to the check-in area after immigration & customs, rather than following the transfer signs. There are plenty of shops and cafes here, and it's a 15 minute walk through security to the SYX gates. If you have lounge access, you can only use the first class checkin lounge (rather than the excellent international transit lounge), in departures zone C opposite the domestic security gates. This is just a small waiting room with a coffee machine: no toilets, no showers, no hot food. The staff did go through security to bring us hot food from the domestic lounge. Lounge staff walk you to the gates at the last minute, which is nice.
At SAN, international transit passengers are given badges, put on a separate bus to the terminal, and escorted through security and immigration checks and left at the departure gate. Business class passengers got a lounge pass but economy elites got nothing.

magicroundabout Apr 24, 19 5:02 pm

Is a Transit Visa required?
 
Hi there, have just booked this for my daughter who will be travelling this same route later in December 2019, and can you please tell me if you needed a transit visa? She can travel on either a NZ or British passport.

Originally Posted by ms264556 (Post 30664468)
I flew CHC-CAN-SYX-LHR last month.
Can thoroughly recommend avoiding SYX routes.

The CAN-SYX leg is domestic, so you have to go through immigration and customs at CAN, then back through security to a couple of special gates in a separate part of T2 for SYX flights. The gates are downstairs, small, cold, with toilets and no other facilities/shops. My tip is to exit to the check-in area after immigration & customs, rather than following the transfer signs. There are plenty of shops and cafes here, and it's a 15 minute walk through security to the SYX gates. If you have lounge access, you can only use the first class checkin lounge (rather than the excellent international transit lounge), in departures zone C opposite the domestic security gates. This is just a small waiting room with a coffee machine: no toilets, no showers, no hot food. The staff did go through security to bring us hot food from the domestic lounge. Lounge staff walk you to the gates at the last minute, which is nice.
At SAN, international transit passengers are given badges, put on a separate bus to the terminal, and escorted through security and immigration checks and left at the departure gate. Business class passengers got a lounge pass but economy elites got nothing.


ms264556 Apr 24, 19 5:52 pm

No need to buy a visa.

If the transit is <8 hours then the transit desk will direct her through to the international departures area.

If the transit is longer then she's entitled to the free hotel and/or tours, so they'll give her a transit form and landing card (+ directions to the hotel desk) to fill out in a special waiting area. She fills these out and gives them + her passport to the China Southern helper, who organises the 24 or 72hr Transit Without Visa (TWOV) for her. They'll return everything after a short wait, and she can go through the "special" immigration counter, clear customs, and follow the directions to the hotel desk.

If the flight is via Sanya then she follows the same procedure, but goes to the Sanya gate rather than the hotel desk.


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