Pilots suspected of smoking in cockpit in Air China flight
Jul 14, 2018, 3:11 am
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Something as common and mundane as smoking doesn't get reported on here - only when a credulous naif ventures abroad.
Unless - as you seem to suggest - that there just happened to be a Flyertalker on board the only 5 flights in the past 10 years in which pilots smoked. [There are far more than the 5 I posted, by the way!]
Let's not forget - it's barely 20 years since smoking was banned on US flights.
Jul 14, 2018, 3:36 am
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Jul 14, 2018, 2:48 pm
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I wouldn't much call this a "drop". It was a controlled descent of 2000-2500 fpm, which would feel like a normal descent in many cases. It's definitely not an uncommon descent. 4000 fpm is within parameters. It's unfortunate some media is saying this plane "plunged", "plummeted" and other such things that appear to be untrue:
Jul 14, 2018, 3:53 pm
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I wouldn't much call this a "drop". It was a controlled descent of 2000-2500 fpm, which would feel like a normal descent in many cases. It's definitely not an uncommon descent. 4000 fpm is within parameters. It's unfortunate some media is saying this plane "plunged", "plummeted" and other such things that appear to be untrue:
Jul 16, 2018, 12:57 am
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Originally Posted by The Economist
GULLIVER is not the type of person to kick up a fuss on his travels, least of all when lucky enough to be at the front of the plane. But his patience was pushed to the limit a couple of years ago, when his EgyptAir flight from Cairo to London was blighted by the near-constant stench of cigarette smoke wafting in from the cockpit. Shackled by British meekness and an unwillingness to challenge a flight crew, your asthmatic correspondent suffered the coughs and tried instead to focus on work. Conversations with Egyptian friends later revealed that on-board cigarette smoke is hardly a rarity when flying with the North African flag-carrier.
Jul 17, 2018, 1:49 am
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The punishment just got announced.
The pilot and co-pilot each got life time ban from flying. Both licenses were immediately revoked. The 3rd pilot (monitoring) got suspended for 24 months. Flight dispatch also was suspended for 24 months.
CA also have been penalized by reducing all 737 schedule by 10% or 5400 hours per month. CA also has been put on probation for 3 months and fined $50000 RMB.
The pilot and co-pilot each got life time ban from flying. Both licenses were immediately revoked. The 3rd pilot (monitoring) got suspended for 24 months. Flight dispatch also was suspended for 24 months.
CA also have been penalized by reducing all 737 schedule by 10% or 5400 hours per month. CA also has been put on probation for 3 months and fined $50000 RMB.
Jul 17, 2018, 11:16 pm
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This may be a "kill the chicken to scare the monkey" situation. Perhaps they were looking at a way to stop smoking in the cockpit of all CAAC flights and now they've got their chance. I bet more than a few smoking pilots will be thinking twice about lighting up now in China. I've got 3 long haul flights on CAAC airlines coming up in the next week and a half. I'll see if any smoking is happening on these flights.
Jul 18, 2018, 6:06 am
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Copilot Vaping e-Cigarette Causes Plane to Plummet
Absolutely ridiculous reason for such an emergency drop in altitude.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/asia/...g-pilots-intl/
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/12/asia/...g-pilots-intl/
Jul 18, 2018, 8:57 pm
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The punishment just got announced.
The pilot and co-pilot each got life time ban from flying. Both licenses were immediately revoked. The 3rd pilot (monitoring) got suspended for 24 months. Flight dispatch also was suspended for 24 months.
CA also have been penalized by reducing all 737 schedule by 10% or 5400 hours per month. CA also has been put on probation for 3 months and fined $50000 RMB.
The pilot and co-pilot each got life time ban from flying. Both licenses were immediately revoked. The 3rd pilot (monitoring) got suspended for 24 months. Flight dispatch also was suspended for 24 months.
CA also have been penalized by reducing all 737 schedule by 10% or 5400 hours per month. CA also has been put on probation for 3 months and fined $50000 RMB.
Jul 18, 2018, 9:03 pm
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Jul 19, 2018, 12:09 am
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I haven't seen reports of an "uncontrolled" descent. The flight track shows approx 15,000 feet in 5 minutes. CA106 July 10
Last edited by Kacee; Jul 19, 2018 at 12:15 am
