Pervasive Crew smoking on China Eastern true?
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If my pilot is a heavy smoker on the ground I think I may want him to have a cigarette or two on a long haul. It's not the end of the world.
Of course, I remember when the passengers were allowed to smoke at their seats.
ETA: this seems to be one of those things that is blowing up to be an urban legend
Of course, I remember when the passengers were allowed to smoke at their seats.
ETA: this seems to be one of those things that is blowing up to be an urban legend
I have done plenty flights on Chinese airlines long haul and no reports of smoke. It's certainly not an argument I'd be challenging the crew or the security officer over. Which is unlikely to achieve anything. (Passenger smoking in toilet different story.)
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Flew China Southern a few years ago, LAX-CAN. There was definitely smoke both ways, and I was pretty far back on an A380.
I'm flying China Eastern in a few months. Hoping for clean air. But it doesn't sound very likely.
I'm flying China Eastern in a few months. Hoping for clean air. But it doesn't sound very likely.
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Our pilots were smoking yesterday on a Shanghai Airlines SHA-GMP hop. Basically from takeoff to landing. I've got 2 MU long hauls to Europe coming up this month and I assume they'll be smoking on those flights as well. It doesn't bother me much for some reason.
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I vowed that I wouldn’t reply to any more of these posts about allegations of smoking. And yet.,,. there are mandatory smoke dectotrs in crew rest areas and in galleys, and in purser stations and several other parts of the aircraft that would activate. The idea that the crew disable these for a smoke and the re-enable them (so that they can be checked at maintenance check) is just unbelievable.
No evidence huh?
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I can't imagine that article is correct. If Chinese regulations indeed prohibit flight crews from smoking then one out of every two flight crews is flaunting that rule, if not more.
If it is, indeed, a rule on the books then hopefully this Air China incident gets them to start enforcing it strictly.
If it is, indeed, a rule on the books then hopefully this Air China incident gets them to start enforcing it strictly.
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I guess some people must be unlucky I’ve never had pilots smoking on any of my chinese flights... at least that I am aware of. And I’d smell it pretty quick.
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Its just a few dangerous airline companies.
they dont care about pax, clearly.
ive had to dispatch these muppets at hkia many moons ago. Literally all cockpits from china smells like crap.
and some saudia.
they dont care about pax, clearly.
ive had to dispatch these muppets at hkia many moons ago. Literally all cockpits from china smells like crap.
and some saudia.
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I can't imagine that article is correct. If Chinese regulations indeed prohibit flight crews from smoking then one out of every two flight crews is flaunting that rule, if not more.
If it is, indeed, a rule on the books then hopefully this Air China incident gets them to start enforcing it strictly.
If it is, indeed, a rule on the books then hopefully this Air China incident gets them to start enforcing it strictly.
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Just flew MU 298 (JFK-PVG). I didn't visually see anybody smoking, didn't see any of the crew smoking in the galley between the two business cabins, and there was no smoke visible. However, I definitely smelled cigarette smoke starting after the first meal service and when I was starting to fall asleep (row 12). I got used to the smell and managed to catch some sleep, but I can imagine somebody getting negatively impacted if one is sensitive to cigarette smoke.
I also think I smelled cigarette smoke on MU 501 (PVG-HKG); most of the pax in the J cabin were non-Chinese, so I doubt I was smelling smoky clothes. Again, didn't bother me too much, but smell was noticeable.
I also think I smelled cigarette smoke on MU 501 (PVG-HKG); most of the pax in the J cabin were non-Chinese, so I doubt I was smelling smoky clothes. Again, didn't bother me too much, but smell was noticeable.