N830MH

Recently, Air China announced its 2015 international.

From Beijing (Long-haul):
CA165/6 Beijing-Melbourne, start from 6-1, A330, 1/3/5/7
CA867/8 Beijing-Johannesburg, start from 6-19, B773, 1/3/5
CA879/80 Beijing-Montreal-Havana, start from 9-20, B773, 1/3/5
CA739/40 Beijing-Auckland, start from 10-25, A330, D
CA741/2 Beijing-Mumbai, start from 10-25, A330, 1/3/5/7
CA869/70 Beijing-Addis Ababa, start from 10-25, A330, 1/4/6

From Beijing (Short-haul):
CA865/6 Beijing-Astana, start from 6-1, B738, 1/3/5/7
CA727/8 Beijing-Fukuoka, start from 6-1, B738, 1/3/5/7
CA729/30 Beijing-Hakodate, start from 6-1, B738, 1/5
CA871/2 Beijing-Kuala Lumpur, start from 10-25, A330, 2/4/6/7

From Hangzhou:
CA725/6 Hangzhou-Osaka, start from 3-30, A320, 1/4/5
CA723/4 Hangzhou-Shizuoka, start from 3-29, A320, 2/3/6/7

From Tianjin:
CA717/8 Tianji-Jeju, start from 4-2, B738, 2/4/6


Wow! A new direct route from PEK-YUL-HAV? Any fifth freedoms?

The entire 77W does have enough range to reach HAV instead of one-stop in YUL. The entire 77W has more capabilities, more fuel-efficient, and more range, as well. Why can't have nonstop PEK-HAV?

ORDnHKG

How do you know it even have the loads for a brand new city, not to mention a new country ? If CA has 787 like HU does, it would be more fit to use 787 instead of 77W for a route like this.

Even HU had switched its long haul to US flights from 346 to 787.

MattSurridge

PEK-KUL should be interesting...

dvs7310

Certainly a few interesting ones in here. I'll likely utilize the PEK-JNB once SA pulls out of Asia (if they really do, time will tell). PEK-YUL-HAV is quite interesting as well but I think unless CA just beats the hell out of them on price then I'd rather take AC to Cuba.

WR Cage

CA is doing joint venture with AC on every canada to china route. The JV will rival LH-UA-AC European joint venture in terms of scope. This is why CA is doing PEK-YUL. CA is also putting up the slots for AC to do YYC-PEK.

minhaoxue

I flew this route in 2010 nonstop. I believe it was only a few days a week with the others being routed through PVG.

TennisNoob

Because the demand is not there to goto Cuba. 77W puts too many people.


+1 , I thought they were still boycotting KUL

N830MH

Yes, you may be right. I didn't realize that. How do you know?

soorox

Those were seasonal services which haven't operated for the past 2-3 years, these new flights will be year round, complimenting the existing CA177/178 MEL-PVG-PEK service. It is said the current MEL-PVG-PEK routing will terminate in PVG when the new PEK services start and reduced to x4 weekly from the current x5 weekly.

MEL-PEK will also increase to daily from 25OCT, I'm unsure if the service will remain at daily for peak season or it will be a permanent year-round fixture.

TennisNoob

Apparently CA knows

Kiwi Flyer

I'd heard rumours about AKL. Amazing that in the space of about 5 or 6 years the China (excl Hong Kong) to Auckland market has gone from no flights at all to:

NZ PVG 5(?) per week
CZ CAN double daily
MU PVG up to 7 per week seasonally
CA PEK daily (later this year)

Plus CI TPE daily via SYD/BNE on alternating days

dvs7310

I'd lump that one in with the HKG flights more so than the mainland China flights, as of now at least mainland Chinese citizens still can't transit TPE to other countries so the TPE flights aren't bringing mainlanders to NZ (yet)

Letitride3c

CA just start flying the 748 yesterday on its PEK-JFK routes (#982 & #981,) that should free up some 772's to rotate/serve other routes - they went from 1 daily nonstops to 2 daily with 777's in early 2014 and it was scaled back on select days to 1 daily (seasonal) last Fall. Will be interesting to see if they will continue the 7's or go back to 1 per day with just the 748's.

Here's the inaugural snapshot yesterday from JFK ground crew posted on the planespotters thread - post #1379 http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...l#post24127363

Guy Betsy

You mean that there is not enough demand for CA to fly direct to HAV? Yes that would make sense to route through YUL as there is a demand especially if CA has Fifth Freedom rights. Since AC has YYZ -PEK covered, CA is plugging a lucrative route that AC wouldn't even consider!

I think by opening up the route, it shows that there is still demand for people to go to Malaysia. Just that they would prefer not to fly on MH (maybe?)

belfordrocks

CA 77W vs Rouge... hmm...