Comparison : China Southern v China Eastern

Old Sep 13, 13, 7:40 pm
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Comparison : China Southern v China Eastern

Looking for your opinions.

I'm deciding on a Biz booking with either of these 2. Price and timing very good on both.
Travelling out of Europe to Asia, via their hub (CAN or PVG).
Southern schedule a 332 and Eastern a 767, for the long haul European segment (it's overnight - a nap will be required). Both use 320's for the Asian hop.

If your words include "dodge them both", my next choice Carrier is $500 more expensive.

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Old Sep 13, 13, 8:56 pm
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CZ, hands down
Full flat bed, reasonable good food and 332 is much more silent than a 767 (which by the way I'm not so sure is operating in the MU fleet)
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Old Sep 14, 13, 2:51 am
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If MU flies a new 33E (not 332 or 333) full flat biz, I would go with them. They are in my opinion now better than CZ, especially in long haul business. Better service whilst hardware is the same as CZ's 332s.

If MU really flies a 767 to Europe - do not book that one. Comfortable recliner seats, but certainly nothing for overnight flights. (Where in Europe do they fly a 767 to, by the way?)

CZ 332s are fully flat business seats and a very good choice. CZ has more AVOD options than MU - which I don't care about much, though.

Overall, MU and CZ (full-flat business flights) are a lot better than all other European carrier business classes.

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Old Sep 14, 13, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Chinatrvl View Post
CZ 332s are fully flat business seats and a very good choice.
Not all CZ 332s have seats that full flat beds (as in horizontal.) They have at least one with seats that are the slanted flat type, which flew DXB-CAN last Wednesday. (Personal experience! ). While certainly not the best, I was able to sleep for about 4-5 hours in it.
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Old Sep 14, 13, 9:25 am
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I'm looking at coming out of Moscow (SVO). Kayak reckons Eastern is a 767.
If it's not one of these two, it'll be via the ME Gulf.
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Old Sep 14, 13, 6:56 pm
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Originally Posted by 1kBill View Post
Not all CZ 332s have seats that full flat beds (as in horizontal.) They have at least one with seats that are the slanted flat type, which flew DXB-CAN last Wednesday. (Personal experience! ). While certainly not the best, I was able to sleep for about 4-5 hours in it.
CZ
330 = angled
332 = full-flat.

SVO is 332, so is the rest of Europe (CAN, AMS, LHR).
DXB is 330.

MU apparently really now flies 767 to SVO; I would not do this.
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Old Sep 15, 13, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by in2it54 View Post
I'm looking at coming out of Moscow (SVO). Kayak reckons Eastern is a 767.
If it's not one of these two, it'll be via the ME Gulf.
Did you check AY prices ex-SVO?
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Old Sep 15, 13, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by Chinatrvl View Post
CZ
330 = angled
332 = full-flat.

SVO is 332, so is the rest of Europe (CAN, AMS, LHR).
DXB is 330.

MU apparently really now flies 767 to SVO; I would not do this.
Not sure what model 330 refers to. AFAIK, there are two models, 330-200 and 330-300, so technically, both are 330's. I have seen them referred to as 332's and 333's for short.

FWIW, I am pretty sure that the aircraft I was on from DXB was a 330-200.
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Old Sep 15, 13, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by 1kBill View Post
Not sure what model 330 refers to. AFAIK, there are two models, 330-200 and 330-300, so technically, both are 330's. I have seen them referred to as 332's and 333's for short.

FWIW, I am pretty sure that the aircraft I was on from DXB was a 330-200.
No, in CZs terms a 330-300 is abbreviated 333. An unrefurbished 330-200 is 330. Unreburbished 333-200s also still have first class, which one can also check.
Of course, other sites may use other abbreviations.

DXB, which I happen to eye as award ticket, is an unrefurbished 330-200, so a 330.

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