China Eastern Airlines Reviews?
Trying to figure out if I should recommend China Eastern airlines to a friend who is traveling with family 2 adults, 4 pre-teen kids. I have seen only a couple reviews on random sites, the few I found were very negative.
Any feedback? Has anyone flown them? Overall experience? |
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Originally Posted by jeremywight
(Post 20968337)
Trying to figure out if I should recommend China Eastern airlines to a friend who is traveling with family 2 adults, 4 pre-teen kids. I have seen only a couple reviews on random sites, the few I found were very negative.
Any feedback? Has anyone flown them? Overall experience? I would fly them again, at least for domestic. They recognized my status and my miles posted promptly, if that's important. |
What route?
Beware of A346 on long haul, otherwise they're fine and better than what we have in Europe. |
Originally Posted by Chinatrvl
(Post 20968487)
What route?
Beware of A346 on long haul, otherwise they're fine and better than what we have in Europe. |
Originally Posted by jeremywight
(Post 20968337)
Trying to figure out if I should recommend China Eastern airlines to a friend who is traveling with family 2 adults, 4 pre-teen kids. I have seen only a couple reviews on random sites, the few I found were very negative.
Any feedback? Has anyone flown them? Overall experience? To be fair, cancellations for domestic flights are very common in mainland China with other airlines as well. International flights tend to be less frequently cancelled. |
My advise is to take the flight without hesitation, if the price is good.
An int'l flight won't get canceled. Flying domestic during my last 150 or so flights with MU/FM and probably more than 250 in total over the last 2 years, the only cancelled ones I experienced are those on the trunk routes, i.e. the 11:30 am PEK-SHA with the option to get rebooked at 11:00 or 12:00 h (or any other at your convenience). I don't really care about 30 or 60 mins... |
I wouldn't worry about cancellation issues on these international MU flights. These days, you're more likely to have problems with UA socking it to you with schedule changes on the TPACs. :p
In a vacuum of information, if the price is good and they are flying economy class, it should be fine. With context, such as what are the other SFO-HKT options and pricing, we might be able to be more definitive on whether the MU plan is the best one. One thing about traveling via PVG is that if they want, they can schedule a stopover of up to 72 hours (assumes US passports) in Shanghai without needing Chinese visas. Shanghai would be an interesting counterpoint to Thailand and Phuket. |
Originally Posted by Laowai
(Post 20968859)
My advise is to avoid MU at all cost. Used to fly them couple of times per month, but due to too many bad experiences I'm nowadays choosing other alternatives whenever I can. Funnily enough I have booked 4 domestic oneway flights with them during this year and 3 of them have been cancelled.
To be fair, cancellations for domestic flights are very common in mainland China with other airlines as well. International flights tend to be less frequently cancelled. I've been using MU for the last 15 years (FM even longer, over 20 years), only had 2 cancellations, Laowei must be quite unlucky on this. :p Bearing in mind, I don't do that many flights in China now, but in the past I do 70-100 a year in China. If anyone can afford, strongly recommend to fly F class in domestic Chinese flights, they are not as expensive as you may think of. |
To me, those 4 hour delays are more painful than outright cancellations.
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echo, if the price is right, and you are low maintenance, go for it.
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Originally Posted by jiejie
(Post 20969770)
I wouldn't worry about cancellation issues on these international MU flights. These days, you're more likely to have problems with UA socking it to you with schedule changes on the TPACs. :p
In a vacuum of information, if the price is good and they are flying economy class, it should be fine. With context, such as what are the other SFO-HKT options and pricing, we might be able to be more definitive on whether the MU plan is the best one. One thing about traveling via PVG is that if they want, they can schedule a stopover of up to 72 hours (assumes US passports) in Shanghai without needing Chinese visas. Shanghai would be an interesting counterpoint to Thailand and Phuket. I was finding a ridiculous fare of $930, compared to $1300 for the next lowest price via matrix, however I couldn't get it to book. Kept going up to $1700... So ultimately I had to change the plan and recommended Singapore/Korean for $1150 at a slightly less convenient date for them. However, I have wondered about China Eastern for a while anyways so I am grateful. Anyone know their date change fee policy for discount economy? ITA didn't mention a change fee, but wondered what your experience has been. |
I've flown them once on a domestic flight, CAN-XIY, and the overall experience was poor. Plane wasn't very clean, poor service, bad food, ect.
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Originally Posted by jeremywight
(Post 20971688)
[...]However, I have wondered about China Eastern for a while anyways so I am grateful. Anyone know their date change fee policy for discount economy? ITA didn't mention a change fee, but wondered what your experience has been.
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Originally Posted by MP (Miles+Points)
(Post 20970254)
We all have preference when we fly with Chinese carriers in domestic flights. Like Laowei don't like MU, I try everything to avoid HU due to bad experience.
I've been using MU for the last 15 years (FM even longer, over 20 years), only had 2 cancellations, Laowei must be quite unlucky on this. :p Bearing in mind, I don't do that many flights in China now, but in the past I do 70-100 a year in China. Regarding to the cancellations I mentioned I must have had at least 15 cancellations during the last 5-6 years. This is the total figure, not only MU flights. Some of these have been (as suggested by chinatrvl) simply changing to another flight leaving an hour or two later/earlier. But also flights like SHA-TXN (only 1 daily flight) or SHA-XIY morning flight changed PVG-XIY late afternoon flight. I guess I'm just unlucky with these. |
I've flown MU from LAX to PEK vis PVG and had really mixed results. The flight out was half empty and I had a lot of room to sprawl out and relax. The cabin was spartan and I don't know that it was super clean. The flights back were full and I had screaming children behind me (not MU's fault). It was certainly not a glamorous experience, but all my flights were on time and it was by far the least expensive option. I would probably fly them again for the right price.
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Worst roundtrip flight in my life
I bought a round-trip ticket from China Eastern and they lost my luggage both times!! I arrived in Sydney, Australia with no fresh clothes or underwear and had to live that way in a hotel for 2 days before they finally found it. No apology, no money refunded.
Coming back home they lost my luggage again! I'm still waiting for them to find my 2 bags, their phone numbers either are out of service or just keep ringing with no option to leave a message. Besides having the worst phone service and losing my luggage constantly, the plane is dirty, completely uncomfortable, puts pork in your vegetarian meals, the flight crew have terrible attitudes and were very rude, they only show Chinese commercials or Chinese movies with no subtitles, and yes the plane does have a certain putrid smell. I couldn't listen to the radio because it only had Chinese artists, the films were all in Chinese with no dubbing, and there was absolutely nothing I could do on a 30 hour plane ride from NY to Sydney. I even remember when they tried to hand me a burger and I told them I'd rather have some peanuts because I don't eat meat, they were so rude and told me to 'Just Try It.' I had to beg them for 2 bags of peanuts instead, which they handed me with such disdain. I paid $1,100 of my hard-earned money (which was very hard to save) and got treated like a stowaway in a ship's cabin. It was absolutely dreadful and I urge anyone considering using their airline to Please Re-think it. I'm never using them ever again!! |
I've been forced to fly MU quite a lot during the course of the past year because they have a quasi-monopoly on one of my most common routes. While I don't have a single truly nightmarish experience to share (even if I did, you could take it with a grain of salt; even good airlines have off days on occasion), my general feeling is that those guys are reliably dismal. Basically, out of 30 flights, not a single one has been even close to on time, and MU doesn't seem to care in the slightest about this. I know that endemic delays are more of a China-ATC problem than an MU specific problem, but the fact that they continue to schedule a 6p departure from NNG to SHA and the inbound flight never makes it to NNG before 6p is seemingly something that they could fix (e.g. call it an 8p flight from the start).
On a more positive note, I do have a 100% success record of scoring good seats: (reclining) exit rows, bulkhead aisles, or upgrades (business on their 321s is surprisingly comfortable). However, I would be willing to put up with the worst seat on the plane if they took some meaningful steps to ensure overall comfort. |
I flew MU earlier this month in biz class from SIN to PVG as part of a DL award itinerary. Given the dismal to mixed reviews on-line for MU, I was pleasantly surprised. A newer Airbus A330 (although with Shanghai Airlines, rather than China Eastern, livery). Comfortable angled lie-flat seat (2-2-2), cabin only half full. Flight attendants were pleasant and attentive, not the sour and dour attendants you often find on Chinese airlines. The food and wine were fine. Departure and arrival on time, and after I cleared Chinese immigration, my checked bag was on the belt. Only negative was very limited IFE choices, but that's why I bring a tablet. Absolutely nothing to complain about.
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Flew with them this past month to Shanghai, Hong Kong and Bangkok in coach. Crew was better than expected, but most of the flights were delayed and the food was awful. I don't think I'll fly with them again unless there is great fare, just because none of my flights seemed to leave on time (the bad food I can live with because I would skip it).
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Originally Posted by rgdave
(Post 22756670)
I flew MU earlier this month in biz class from SIN to PVG as part of a DL award itinerary. Given the dismal to mixed reviews on-line for MU, I was pleasantly surprised. A newer Airbus A330 (although with Shanghai Airlines, rather than China Eastern, livery). Comfortable angled lie-flat seat (2-2-2), cabin only half full. Flight attendants were pleasant and attentive, not the sour and dour attendants you often find on Chinese airlines. The food and wine were fine. Departure and arrival on time, and after I cleared Chinese immigration, my checked bag was on the belt. Only negative was very limited IFE choices, but that's why I bring a tablet. Absolutely nothing to complain about.
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Originally Posted by rgdave
(Post 22756670)
I flew MU earlier this month in biz class from SIN to PVG as part of a DL award itinerary. Given the dismal to mixed reviews on-line for MU, I was pleasantly surprised. A newer Airbus A330 (although with Shanghai Airlines, rather than China Eastern, livery). Comfortable angled lie-flat seat (2-2-2), cabin only half full. Flight attendants were pleasant and attentive, not the sour and dour attendants you often find on Chinese airlines. The food and wine were fine. Departure and arrival on time, and after I cleared Chinese immigration, my checked bag was on the belt. Only negative was very limited IFE choices, but that's why I bring a tablet. Absolutely nothing to complain about.
* The HKG-SHA flight was short. I did not remember everything except that service and seats were all very good. * The PVG-SFO flight was excellent. It is of course better than UA and BA, but it is even better than CX. I do like that CX AVOD more though. MU screen is farther away (~1.5m from my eyes) and there seemed to have fewer selections. The flight attendants were all very attentive. :) |
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