Cz/ka: Can-hkg
I was wondering for a flight only covering 84 miles between CAN & HKG, why is the flight about 1 hour long? I would have thought the flight would take 30 minutes tops. MEL-SYD is significantly longer and only take around 1 hour also. Surely there must be a reason about this.
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Lots of air traffic control restrictions along that busy airspace. It's not a straight line heading out, and not a straight line heading in. A lot of time will be spent lining up for approach.
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I've been in the air for 1H+ on CZ before. We circled and circled over Guangdong before coming in for landing over Macau.
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Originally Posted by hkskyline
(Post 20370240)
Lots of air traffic control restrictions along that busy airspace. It's not a straight line heading out, and not a straight line heading in. A lot of time will be spent lining up for approach.
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DCA-PHL is also a short flight distance-wise (just 40 miles longer):
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=d...OR=&MAP-STYLE= And, it doesn't face any "climb to 15k feet in the first 10 miles" rules... or a handoff between one country's ATC and another's. Yet, it's also blocked at ~1 hour. My hope for the future is that China and HK effectively eliminate their border. While this would annoy many Hongkies, it's no secret that one of HK's main purposes these days is to support development in the PRC; even with echannels, enormous amounts of our time are wasted at border crossings. If they open the border, a direct train between HKIA and Shenzhen/Guangzhou would become extremely viable -- just extend the AEX across Shenzhen Bay (I'm getting tired of taking those vans every time I fly into HKG, but need to get elsewhere in the PRD). |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 20405110)
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My hope for the future is that China and HK effectively eliminate their border. While this would annoy many Hongkies, it's no secret that one of HK's main purposes these days is to support development in the PRC; even with echannels, enormous amounts of our time are wasted at border crossings. If they open the border, a direct train between HKIA and Shenzhen/Guangzhou would become extremely viable -- just extend the AEX across Shenzhen Bay (I'm getting tired of taking those vans every time I fly into HKG, but need to get elsewhere in the PRD). HK allows visa free entry to most passport holders, PRC requires visas for almost all passport holders. And recently PRC multiple entry visas are not as easy to obtain as before. I just do not see anyway around this. While I see it as a hassle, I also am happy to live in Shenzhen and have easy access to HK for very little cost, unlike ex-pats in Shanghai or elsewhere who have to buy expensive air tickets for visa runs. I have to admit, though, when I find flights out of SZX to wherever outside China that are priced similarly to flights out of HKG, I am very happy to catch a taxi to SZX for under RMB100 and not deal with Shenzhen Bay or Huanggang, nor pad my driving time by an hour in case the border is clogged up (with mainlanders going to HK to buy more LV and Prada, etc). |
Originally Posted by mcjava
(Post 20412993)
I have to admit, though, when I find flights out of SZX to wherever outside China that are priced similarly to flights out of HKG, I am very happy to catch a taxi to SZX for under RMB100 and not deal with Shenzhen Bay or Huanggang, nor pad my driving time by an hour in case the border is clogged up (with mainlanders going to HK to buy more LV and Prada, etc).
They should just open an LV, Prada and Gucci store on the bridge at Lu Wu, it would fix over half these problems. |
Originally Posted by SirJman
(Post 20422658)
They should just open an LV, Prada and Gucci store on the bridge at Lu Wu, it would fix over half these problems.
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Originally Posted by SirJman
(Post 20422658)
They should just open an LV, Prada and Gucci store on the bridge at Lu Wu, it would fix over half these problems.
But then add a baby powder store and the problem surely will be solved! |
Originally Posted by mcjava
(Post 20423582)
Hah!
But then add a baby powder store and the problem surely will be solved! |
Originally Posted by SirJman
(Post 20428010)
I was just thinking of a Watsons.
For a quick trip out of China (for example, 30 or 60 day stay is up), this is the best port to get the China exit stamp, buy a few things, and immediately re-enter China. But does not solve the Gucci/Prada issues, and I do not remember seeing baby powder in stock. |
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