China Southern vs China Airlines
May 29, 2011, 3:08 pm
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China Southern vs China Airlines
Anybody have experience with these 2 airlines' business class? Thinking of taking one of them in the not too distant future.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
May 29, 2011, 11:01 pm
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SYD-CAN is on 333, so I believe the pitch offered there for Business Class is more of a regional First with some recline. CAN-YVR is on 772, so it should be 70" pitch full recline. However, I believe CAN-YVR has not even started, so I doubt anyone can give you actual cabin experience. Connection is better from CAN if you time it well with CZ's 3 weekly service to Vancouver to avoid long duration of stay (like about 6 hours each way).
SYD-TPE is on 33A, the pitch is 61" and recline is 166 deg. TPE-YVR is on 343, the pitch is 60" and recline is 150 deg. While you are transiting in TPE, you will experience about 16-18 hours of layover (on both ways), so I am not sure if you want to do that? I suppose you can exit the airport and go for a day tour. If TPE-YVR is substituted with 744 when you are making a purchase, avoid.
Service wise CI is better than CZ.
PTV/AVOD selection CI is also better than CZ.
Food as well.
If past safety record is a concern, choose CZ.
Price might be a deciding factor.
SYD-CAN is on 333, so I believe the pitch offered there for Business Class is more of a regional First with some recline. CAN-YVR is on 772, so it should be 70" pitch full recline. However, I believe CAN-YVR has not even started, so I doubt anyone can give you actual cabin experience. Connection is better from CAN if you time it well with CZ's 3 weekly service to Vancouver to avoid long duration of stay (like about 6 hours each way).
SYD-TPE is on 33A, the pitch is 61" and recline is 166 deg. TPE-YVR is on 343, the pitch is 60" and recline is 150 deg. While you are transiting in TPE, you will experience about 16-18 hours of layover (on both ways), so I am not sure if you want to do that? I suppose you can exit the airport and go for a day tour. If TPE-YVR is substituted with 744 when you are making a purchase, avoid.
Service wise CI is better than CZ.
PTV/AVOD selection CI is also better than CZ.
Food as well.
If past safety record is a concern, choose CZ.
Price might be a deciding factor.
May 30, 2011, 8:18 pm
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It's somewhat disingenuous to award PRC airlines glowing safety records on the basis of the fact that there haven't been many incidents since CAAC was reorganized into the current system (with competing airlines).
I would also like to point out that CAN is an unpleasant place to connect, though I'm not liking the sound of "18 hours in TPE" so much either (unless there is an interest in stopping over).
I would also like to point out that CAN is an unpleasant place to connect, though I'm not liking the sound of "18 hours in TPE" so much either (unless there is an interest in stopping over).
May 31, 2011, 3:34 am
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On the way back arrival into TPE around 5ish ex SFO, booked the transit hotel refreshed and then cleared immigration to book the day tour, 2 tours were offered to various locations I chose the one that took you into Downtown TPE, (TPE 101)... First come first served basis.. Taiwan Visa on arrival for Aus Citizens...
Let us know how you go
, overall decent product ... flew CI 2 times after that to DEL..
May 31, 2011, 10:05 am
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I personally would choose CI over CZ, but there are enough people on this board that values "safety record" so I might as well list them. This way I don't sound like a blind supporter of CI. Plus, CZ does offer lie-flat seats on one of the segment, it should be better than CI.
YVR is already using 343, so no refurbish planes. I don't think 744 will be reinstated here unless there's huge demand here and there (like substitutions for certain dates).
I believe there's still 1 day tour offered in the airport. Speak to CI and see if they can arrange anything, or you can speak to the people at TPE airport once you get out.
YVR is already using 343, so no refurbish planes. I don't think 744 will be reinstated here unless there's huge demand here and there (like substitutions for certain dates).
I believe there's still 1 day tour offered in the airport. Speak to CI and see if they can arrange anything, or you can speak to the people at TPE airport once you get out.
Jun 1, 2011, 5:52 am
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According to http://www.go2taiwan.net/free_half_day_tour.php - the free 1/2 day tour is still offered. I just called and the lady confirmed it is still on (as of 2 June 2011).
Also, CI now owns its own hotel at the TPE airport so I would imagine any STPC would be at that hotel.
Also, CI now owns its own hotel at the TPE airport so I would imagine any STPC would be at that hotel.
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Jun 4, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Jun 4, 2011, 5:22 pm
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Jun 4, 2011, 8:36 pm
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